Most peoples poor TV picture setup.
Most peoples poor TV picture setup.
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Morningside

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24,147 posts

253 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Back in the 1970s my father was a TV repair chap. Having worked at Pye in development he knew a fair bit BUT our TV was more coloured than colour. He would keep repairing it rather than think about buying a new one. So it was also out of colour alignment as well. So I know how bad things can be.

Now I know that again back in the 70s/80s the shops used to crank up the colour setting to make them more appealing but these days why do people still seem to have badly set up TVs?

After moving in ours (She refuses to let me fiddle) has over bright flaring reds, poor contrast and the whole picture seems 'moody' all the time.

But 'I like it like that' It's driving me mad.

Trustmeimadoctor

14,302 posts

179 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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im same as you but most people dont give a st i even do a basic calibration on tv's in hotels if im in them for more than a night.

most people wont pay to get sets calibrated and imho they shouldnt need to the calibration in the professional settings should be 99% correct out of teh factory imho but that would drive costs up and obviously doesnt take into consideration viewing environment

K50 DEL

9,658 posts

252 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Would like to set mine up right but when I tried the recommended settings that I found on an Internet forum a couple of years ago it looked awful so I went back to how it was before!
Whilst there might be a number of people who don't care, there are also probably an equal number like me who simply don't know what to do and can't afford to pay!


Edited by K50 DEL on Tuesday 10th January 08:26

Trustmeimadoctor

14,302 posts

179 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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why did it look awful to you ?

Morningside

Original Poster:

24,147 posts

253 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
why did it look awful to you ?
Obvious over flaring of colours (red). Contrast too low. On a slightly shadowed face for example it would be totally black.

Trustmeimadoctor

14,302 posts

179 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Morningside said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
why did it look awful to you ?
Obvious over flaring of colours (red). Contrast too low. On a slightly shadowed face for example it would be totally black.
not you k50 del wink

vx220

2,720 posts

258 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Morningside said:
After moving in ours (She refuses to let me fiddle) has over bright flaring reds, poor contrast and the whole picture seems 'moody' all the time.

But 'I like it like that' It's driving me mad.
Just fiddle a tiny bit at a time!

Trustmeimadoctor

14,302 posts

179 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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the problem is with fidling natural/proper calibration looks quite dull and uninteresting but is correct most people like their tv to go pow look at those colours thats why i spent £xxxx on a tv people like vivid because its eyecatching

Ransoman

884 posts

114 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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First thing I usually do with a new TV is turn the sharpness right down (default is usually 75, I turn to 15), backlight down 2 notches and colour down a few as well.

Then turn off dynamic range on the speakers so you can actually hear something!

I hate a poorly setup TV but some Tv's don't make it easy with multiple preset "Scenes" that autochange depending on what input you are watching.

Trustmeimadoctor

14,302 posts

179 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Sharpness down? Usually I find 48-50 correct on most TV's I've used and most come around 50 usually. You must like a very soft image as long as there is no ringing then it's OK. Backlight during the day upto about 70 on mine on a night maybe 25

Abbott

2,851 posts

227 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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After a lot of searching and failed attempts I finally found a copy of the THX Optimiser test card on a DVD.
Followed the steps and now have a better picture.

Ransoman

884 posts

114 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Sharpness down? Usually I find 48-50 correct on most TV's I've used and most come around 50 usually. You must like a very soft image as long as there is no ringing then it's OK. Backlight during the day upto about 70 on mine on a night maybe 25
sharpness is an artificial enhancement, turning it down doesn't artificially soften the image, it just reduces the post processing.

I have found 0 to be too soft but between 15 to 25 on most brands seems to give the most natural looking picture (to me)

Orchid1

904 posts

132 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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James May would love this thread wink

mackie1

8,168 posts

257 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Bugs me too. The shop defaults catch the eye but look overblown and ridiculous in a living room. You show someone a nice natural image and "vivid" mode next to each other though and the sad reality is that 90% of people would choose "vivid".

Don't get me started on people watching films with frame interpolation turned on!

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

248 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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There is only one set of correct settings on any TV.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

248 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Actually, that is not quite true, you can on some sets like OLEDs get the same results adjusting oled light and contrast, cran one up and lower the other.

I think the problem for many is most TVs push too much green, red or blue even on the Cinema or ISF settings, and if the colour is then too high it looks awful, you can tell it is not correct even if you don't know why.

Also, people get so used to a 'cool' picture that when they see a correct picture they think it look too yellow, but stick with it for a few days and then go back to the original settings and they will then look awful.


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

220 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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vx220 said:
Morningside said:
After moving in ours (She refuses to let me fiddle) has over bright flaring reds, poor contrast and the whole picture seems 'moody' all the time.

But 'I like it like that' It's driving me mad.
Just fiddle a tiny bit at a time!
Or grow a pair.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

308 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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If people are happy with it, let them crack on.


Drives me nuts though......

TheInternet

5,176 posts

187 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Orchid1 said:
James May would love this thread wink
yes Good bloke.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

285 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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I still can't see the difference between SD and HD.

paperbag