911 to Cayman R
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Onetrackmind

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817 posts

234 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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Posted in the 911 forum about how I'm considering a move from 996 turbo to 997.2 C2S. I have small kids and live in a congested city so thought a newer 997.2 with PDK was the right car for me. However, I also have a 2014 Subaru BRZ which I bought for trackdays and the odd trip around town (also have a boring family car). Now, the thought has just crossed my mind to sell the 996 turbo and BRZ and replace both with a Cayman R PDK. This way, I will have a reliable weekend car that I can do the odd track day in. PDK would be great for the traffic and my wife could easily drive it if one of us needs the big car for the kids. What put me off the C2S was the lack of exclusivity meaning that it could be worth half of what I paid for it in a few years time. I would hope this is not so with a Cayman R.

Has anyone done a similar swap? I love the quick steering of the BRZ - is the Cayman R similar?

g7jhp

7,023 posts

259 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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I don't see a good manual 997.2 C2S or GTS halfing in value anytime soon.

They're relatively rare as they arrived 2009/2010 in the middle of the last downturn.

997.2 C2S or Cayman R I'd still see the 997.2 having more demand.

BubblesNW

1,711 posts

204 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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I would expect the Cayman R to feel like a BRZ where the quality has been updated significantly. Great fun and a quality feel. For track only some will try and convince you that a manual is the only choice but it isn't. On track the manual and pdk are different but each has it's pros and cons.

As for residuals, the Cayman R has been steady or even increasing for the last 2 years, the equivalent 997 would be the GTS for similar exclusivity and price performance but the starting point is significantly higher.

Try them both and see which you and your wife prefer, the R might be a little harsh with the standard passive suspension compared with the 997 or a PASM equipped car. Either way, enjoy the hunt.

andy.yeow

174 posts

122 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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Amazing car! Great on track, PDK perfect for London/city living, absolutely gutted I have to sell mine frown

BertBert

20,775 posts

232 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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How much do you want for the BRZ? I quite fancy one!
Bert

Onetrackmind

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817 posts

234 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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BertBert said:
How much do you want for the BRZ? I quite fancy one!
Bert
I'm overseas. But I would thoroughly recomm me one. Great fun. These will be very popular with the pistonheads crowd once they come down in value

V800MJH

504 posts

178 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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A Cayman R will 100% have more demand than a 911 S. Assuming you have some good options on it. The value of the 911 will always go down (unless you have a GT car)

Cayman R prices are holding strong and good ones are on the up.

I had a 997 C4S for 2 years. I now have a Cayman R. The R is much better is most areas. The 911 had better brakes, was more comfy and was probably better in the snow. (not that I'll drive my R in the snow to find out though)

Andrew911

850 posts

130 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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I'am sure the Cayman will be a lot of fun. FYI I sold a late 2009 997 Gen 2 C2S a couple of years ago. i would have to pay the same at least if I was looking for a similar car now. I think 997 Gen 2 prices will be hold firm - helped by strong GTS & turbo prices.

Edited by Andrew911 on Monday 9th January 11:22

Onetrackmind

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817 posts

234 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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In all honesty I think I'd prefer the way the Cayman R drives. I prefer driving my BRZ to the turbo. Problem is it's hard to walk away from the turbo as it's kind of a special car. Not sure if values will rise but this is also a factor. Thing is the turbo is now an old car and not cheap to keep on the road; any gains could be negated by maintenance costs. Suppose it's a first world problem!