browno's never-ending 1985 mini project
browno's never-ending 1985 mini project
Author
Discussion

browno

Original Poster:

529 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
Apologies in advance, but I fear a large essay is imminent on my 1985 Mini City E, which is a VERY long term project, but I hope it is in the spirit of PH, and I know everyone loves a good project! I may have posted bits of this in the past, but I haven't put together a dedicated thread for my build, and since I am approaching having it back on the road, then thought it might be a good time to put it all in one place! The initial history below is a bit of a consolidation and compilation of old posts from other forums, so please excuse any reptition or jumps!

To get to the start of the project, we need to go all the way back to the summer of 1993, when I was 16 and eager to get behind the wheel. I had saved up a fair bit of money from my holiday jobs, and was keen to get myself a car that I could tidy up in the six months before I could start driving. My Dad had spotted a mini that was being repaired at a garage owned by my mate’s Dad, and was up for sale as the owner’s husband had been banned. So, a week or so later (on August 31st 1993, in fact), I became the proud owner of a 1985 Mini City E, which had a new MOT that day and had recorded 47420 miles. It was in good condition, but hadn’t been cleaned in a long time, so on the first day it looked like this (with me & my brother in it looking very young & of course stylish!)




So I got my most stylish gear on and got to work giving it a clean, and got rid of the fetching brown interior, after which it looked a lot tidier:






The only visible fault was a small rust hole in the bonnet, so I got rid of that:




Then we thought it would be worthwhile getting it into the garage so that we could whip out the rust-prone rear subframe to repair it as needed and paint the floor in that area:



The good news was that the original subframe was in great condition, as was the boot floor, so we stripped everything back, gave it all several coats of hammerite to protect it from the elements and reassembled it all looking much better:








So far, so good – in fact we’d found it quite straightforward – and at this point is where things changed from a quick tidy up into a more serious project. Having sorted out the rear end, I also stripped and painted the floor in the middle of the car without any problems. Then we decided to up the ante by taking out the front subframe – achieved by simply lifting the body off the front running gear, which was then wheeled out.





Then the engine/gearbox and all brake and suspension components were separated from the subframe and it was built back to give us a rolling shell (so that the engine could be rebuilt and put back into the shell later)

This resulted in a shell that was well protected underneath and looked like this:



As it had turned into more than a quick tidy-up, and I wasn’t going to have it ready for when I did my test, I decided that the paintwork wasn’t great, and could be improved – so it was sent off to a mate’s garage for a paintjob… He assured me that he’d take great care of my pride & joy for me…




The car was prepped and primed, but then the project stalled for the first time, as it was being painted as a favour, it was low priority – so spent about 2 years sitting in a shed at the garage awaiting attention. Eventually, when I was at Uni, and had nice long summer holidays I got cracking on with it again – I built the engine up which is based on the original 998cc unit, but significantly upgraded (I was concerned about insurance at the time, and the engine was in such good nick, I decided to modify it, rather than transplant it) with the following bits:

Minisport stage 1 kit (alloy inlet & LCB exhaust manifolds, superflow exhaust & K&N filter)
Minisport stage 3 cylinder head
Minisport road/rally cam
Single 1 ¾” SU HIF44 carb
Aldon electronic ignition conversion

After a bit of nudging, the car then got painted in Ferrari Rosso Corse with a Ford Diamond White roof – and I had a motor that looked like this:



So the motor was fitted (and sounded fantastic) – then the spending then started on shiny bits for it including lots of trim, a six-point safety devices roll cage, a pair of cobra low-back buckets and all sorts of other stuff. With a big push on to fit this lot up, the car was looking pretty good and just needed some trim and wiring finishing before it was ready:





However, at this point things changed again, and the project stalled for the second, longer time. I ended up staying on at Uni for 3 more years to do a PhD and towards the end of that 3 years, my dad (who can be seen in some of the earlier pictures) died suddenly aged just 49.

Eventually I ended up finishing uni and getting myself a job, which was back near home, and bought a house – so got a mate with a truck to bring the car over into my new garage – so, we are up to 2004, 11 years after I bought it, and it looked like this:



Finally after lots of failed attempts, in 2008, I decided to have a big push and finally get it on the road, as it has become such a huge joke with all my friends and family that I have the infamous unfinished mini that it needs to be finished! I also figured that since it’s something that I’ve worked so hard on with my Dad and Brother that I need to finish it off as a memory of him too.

I stripped the top end of the engine again and rebuilt the head, rebuilt the carb and got the engine running again before I started work on some of the other jobs that need doing – some that weren’t done originally, others that need doing because of the lay-up.

After a lot of work, it didn’t look much different – but it had a lot of jobs attended to:



The electrics all worked, and the remaining jobs were focussed on sorting out the interior and tidying all the wiring. One of the big jobs was getting out both screens to fit new seals, which meant I could also take out the dash and retrim it. It was then looking lots better – but taking lots of time to get the details sorted out – things like the heater, which had a leaky matrix has been taken out, stripped and all the parts painted and reassembled with a new matrix, and replacing just about everything in the cooling system (new water pump, thermostat and everything else flushed out) - only to find that the pipes into the heater matrix were also leaky, so were also replaced!





Moving forward, I took out my newly refurbished heater, as the hoses to it were leaky...



Then connected up my new shiny silicone hoses, and fitted it up



After that, I started doing a bit more work on the interior - and fitted my rear door cards from retro retrims...




I then got the front door cards fitted and the interior looking pretty good (with a number of electrical gremlins lurking!)




Next, I solved my wheel dilemma, by buying a set of used minilites, and then went off down to the 2008 Bingley Hall show (and had a great day!), and have spent a small fortune on getting a load of bits that I need to finish up (and a couple of treats!)

The list was:

Full set of Hi-Lo's
Full set of Gaz Adjustables
Braided oil pressure gauge pipe
Grille surround set
Carpet underlay set
Gearknob
Wiper Mechanism (one of my guide tubes is bent, meaning the wipers are very sluggish)
Bonnet Badge
and various other odds & ends...

Firstly, I stripped the o/s rear suspension to start adding my new bits:



...and after lots of swearing and some serious work with the pliers and an old screwdriver to get out the nylon cup in the radius arm, I could compare the old and new parts...:




So I built up the rear end and dropped it onto the first of it's new wheels and then did the same things on the front o/s - to give this look - which I'm very happy with!!!...(perhaps set a bit too low for now - but we'll wait and see when all 4 corners are done!)





I also rebuilt the wiper mech again - but it wasn't too exciting, so I didn't take pics!

I did then get the remainder done, but didn't take pics at the time.

The progress then stopped again for a while, as I had the combination of a house move and first child to contend with! So work stalled for another 3 1/2 years in fact!

I started by buying another new heater matrix (this time with solid pipe attachments) and fitting that. I then bought (another) new battery, and thought I'd try and get it fired up. So after first carefully making sure there was some oil around the top end, and then building oil pressure on the starter, I gave it a go and... Nothing! So, having checked for fuel, I double checked the static timing, then looked for a spark - which I didn't have. Then I remembered the 12v feed for the Aldon ingitor (I have ballasted ignition) - which was disconnected!

As soon as that was sorted, I tried again, and it sprung into life, and is sounding pretty healthy. I went to try and set up the timing, but the bulb in my light has gone - so I guess that's the next job!

Then I checked all the electrics over and had all lights working, replaced the wiper stalk (as it had been broken by an over-keen toddler playing in the car!), adjusted the rear suspension (there wasn't room for a finger between wheel and arch - so it's now at a more sensible level), and adjusted the rear drums, and also changed the plugs and checked over the carb. I then sorted out setting up the timing and getting the mixture set a bit better, so she's running quite nicely, which is good.

I then got busy tracing and rectifying a pretty elusive electrical fault - I mentioned before that the Washer pump and wipers weren't working, well neither was the heater fan either. Having spotted that they are all on the same circuit, it was time for some fault-finding. First, I discovered that they were only being fed about 6-8V which was switched with the ignition... So having checked and cleaned all the earths, it was then time to look to the feed - and I discovered that the ignition switch was showing very variable resistance on the ignition switched circuit as you moved the key. So I have now (after much drilling!) replaced the assembly, and all appears to be working, which is good!

I then also managed to move the car out of the garage under power to take a good look around, and discovered a trickle of brake fluid down the inside of the bulkhead - so I am now in the process of replacing the master cylinder, and checking the clutch master too. What an absolute pig of a job - I managed to get the brake master out with about an hour of swearing, but needed a lot more to get out the split pin and clevis pin for the clutch master, but eventually got both masters swapped over okay...

After that, I did manage to sustain some focus for a while on making progress and got new brake and clutch master cylinders installed and a selection more work done, but then the mini had to go off into storage at a friend's house for a while, as the old garage was demolished and we had the house extended to include a new garage, took around a year. The car then returned and I have had a few other jobs on since then - more mods to my MX5, repairing my wife's Clio 182 when it was rear-ended and declared cat d (for a rear bumper swap!) and more recently playing with a second Mazda (this time a late mk1) that I have bought to turn into an Exocet kit car.

One additional treat in the garage is that I thought I would save messing with jacks, so have installed a scissor lift - which is brilliant bit of kit!



So, going back to the mini (my plan to get me to be a little disciplined is that I can't start stripping the mazda to build the kit until the mini is MOT'd), I have been firstly sorting some wiring issues which means I now have a full complement of electrics, and also getting the bonnet and grille fitted...







So it is edging closer - I think that one of my next jobs is to go through carefully and make a snagging list to complete before getting it up to my mate's garage for MOT - which I don't think is far off - I need some amber bulbs in the indicators, clamps on the battery and other such jobs doing and we will be there all being well!

I will keep updated as I make progress, but I hope that it will finally be done before I get to the 24th anniversary of buying the car which is in August!

6cylGolf

847 posts

219 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
quotequote all
Brilliant. I also have an on off relationship, but it's a fiesta and only 14 years. But I can certainly relate!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
quotequote all
Less than a mile a year for the last 24 years?

Lots of people say 'epic build' but this really is. Keep us updated!

Butter Face

34,670 posts

189 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
quotequote all
Great work man, that's a hell of a build!

browno

Original Poster:

529 posts

263 months

Friday 20th January 2017
quotequote all
Thanks all - good to get some positive comments, and yes - it has done 23 miles during my ownership (all either driven by my Dad before we took it off the road, or rolling around to/from trailers - I have yet to drive it properly on the road, which must be some kind of record!)

A little more progress to report - I got the bulbs for the front indicators so could refit them along with a new front plate.



I was also getting fed up of seeing all my shiny chrome bits looking all tarnished, so did a slightly non-essential job and gave it all a rub over with some autosol:





To this:





I have also put a quick coat of plastidip onto my original (brown!) instrument surround, although it doesn't look great so far, so will see how it goes, and if not will pick something up to replace it:



I also had it up in the air for a good check over the brakes/suspension/underside and have spotted that the handbrake is a bit lazy on one side, so will free up/adjust the cables and actuator lever on the drum.

Other than that, at the minute my list of jobs is to replace the windscreen washer hose as it is all split, replace the pedal rubbers, clamp down the battery and refit the fresh air ducting for the heater, and I think I will be ready to go...

Deerfoot

5,238 posts

213 months

Friday 20th January 2017
quotequote all
Great write-up.

My mum used to take me to school in an `84 Mini Mayfair, she used to cane it round every bend!

paulrandall

377 posts

238 months

Friday 20th January 2017
quotequote all
So many memories, thanks for sharing!

I wish when I needed a more sensible 'daily' that I kept my Mini for exactly this reason.

Sadly someone bought it, wrote it off and I've never found the time or space to get another.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
quotequote all
Fantastic! I have a 1969 Beetle in a similar situation. Bought for me by my late dad in 1996 for my 17th birthday. Been off the road since 2000!! I want more than anything to get it done, but life always seems to get in the way. I've been trying to pay a deposit for the paint tonight but my internet banking is playing up and I haven't even been able to do that!! Sometimes it feels like fate is against you!!

browno

Original Poster:

529 posts

263 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
quotequote all
I know exactly what you mean there Mr Big - this has been in need of "some electrics sorting and a bit of trim" for about the last decade! Do you have a build thread and/or pics - would be good to see, and you never know might even motivate you to get a bit more done!

A little more progress tonight after a few days where I couldn't quite face heading out to the cold (even with both my small heaters on the garage isn't exactly toasty!). I did manage to get myself moving today though and have sorted the dodgy handbrake which needed the pivots on each drum cleaning up and freeing - after which it was working much more smoothly.

After that, I also managed to replumb my washer jets as the hose was all split.

Not quite earth-shattering progress, but a little closer still!

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
quotequote all
You know what? I don't. Maybe it's time to put something together, although not sure PH is the place for it...

Props to you for getting out there in this weather and cracking on with it. Send some motivation my way!

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 27th January 2017
quotequote all
browno - tax due 1 Sep 1993 tells me all I need to know! hehe

For the record - I haven't got round to fitting a new gearbox/ stripping an E39 for the last TEN years!!

browno

Original Poster:

529 posts

263 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
quotequote all
Another good day today - a nice wander round the stalls at Bingley Hall, where I managed to buy a load of bits that I need to get sorted - small bits like pedal rubbers and battery clamps, a pair of halogen lamps to replace the dubious angel eyes I had fitted a while ago and a couple of extravagances! First of these was a pair of opening rear windows and secondly a new dash.

I mentioned before about trying to paint the clock cowl, but having walked round today thought it might look better to fit a full width dash to finish the interior off and provide a nice contrast to the red dash rails. So I bought myself a piano black dash, which I have sorted and fitted tonight. This required removal of one leg of the front cage, and needed some swearing to get everything in and lined up, but I think the end result looks pretty smart!





So now it is time to keep up the momentum and get the cage refitted and the other bits all done and it will be ready to go!



SebringMan

1,774 posts

215 months

Monday 30th January 2017
quotequote all
That is looking very smart indeed! I am loving the build!

A lot of the bits in the build are things I would have done to a Mini should I own one again!

That said, I'd have liked to have seen spreader plates at the feet of the cage ; I've seen welds and spot welds pop due to a lack of them in the past (including my now sold Escort RST).

bomb

3,795 posts

313 months

Monday 30th January 2017
quotequote all
Great thread, but don't spoil it by 'rushing'. hehe

snotrag

15,621 posts

240 months

Monday 30th January 2017
quotequote all
I hope you like driving it once its done! hehe Great project though, on the road for Spring, I'm sure your old boy would be chuffed thumbup

browno

Original Poster:

529 posts

263 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
quotequote all
A small update to post - I have another milestone... I called to see my mate this morning, and THE MOT IS BOOKED! Yup - it will be going in for test a week on Saturday, so fingers crossed all will look good! In the meantime I'm going to give it a good look over, and check for anything I may have missed but hopefully we are good to go!

browno

Original Poster:

529 posts

263 months

Friday 24th February 2017
quotequote all
Time for another update - firstly a little aside. Having bought the mini to tidy up before beginning driving at 17, I felt just how long it has taken last week - as it was a big birthday for me - and as we had a little birthday bash, my mum had commissioned a cake for me - featuring the mini, which was very impressive - apparently she had been very worried about it and it had been made to match a series of photos of the car! As you can imagine, I was very touched by the whole thing - and I might even be able to finally legally drive the car this week - just a mere 23 years late!





Of course, I just had to compare it to the real thing! A very impressive present - and very tasty it was too!

Birthday aside, I have made a little more progress this week - having spent a few evenings in the garage - the first set of jobs was to check over the whole car looking for any obvious defects that might cause an MOT fail - and all looked good (famous last words - although I do know that we will need to tweak timing and mixture and set headlight aim)...

Next was to sort a few minor jobs, like sort out the bonnet stay, which was sorted after grabbing the retaining clip from my kit-donor MX-5 to make sure all was secure.

Then finally, I decided that I could make it look better, and so had a go at giving it a machine polish (as I have a DA polisher and all the bits that has had very little use!) - I trod very carefully, not wanting to go too far, so haven't perfected everything, but have brought a lot of life into the paint, and removed many of the minor blemishes that have been introduced as the paint has been caught during the build. There is still an area on the bootlid that needs some serious work (possibly a wet-sand), but I am happy for now that after a couple of passes with the polisher then a coat of sealant and one of wax that it is looking half decent!



With all of this, I was still unsure of what I was actually going to do with the car - having spent so long on it, one thought was that as long as it is MOTd, it is finished - so it can then sit in the garage, as the cost of taxing, insuring it etc would be high relative to any use. One reason for that is that I had got some quotes (not too long ago) for classic policies which were heavily loaded due to the cage - coming in at £3-400. However, I rang around for cover, and have managed to get a 2000 mile classic policy with all mods declared for £120... which I couldn't argue at!

So, as a result, all is set and waiting for the big MOT day to come - I am going to be heading for MOT in the morning, so will update tomorrow with news of my first drive, and whether it has been a success! Fingers crossed!

MDifficult

2,821 posts

214 months

Friday 24th February 2017
quotequote all
Absolutely outstanding! I like to see someone take their time to do a job properly wink Looks fantastic

browno

Original Poster:

529 posts

263 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
quotequote all
So, here I am again! Got up and going this morning to get sorted for the MOT - and my first drive of the mini! So, I set off from home and drove down to get some fuel first of all, with my brother following me just in case! So, first impressions are that, it didn't have a lot of desire to really start or stop very much - the former I think being down to setup, the latter possibly being me driving modern servoed cars most of the time... anyway, we got to the petrol station in one piece and fuelled up!



As I was getting the fuel, a guy who was filling up a lovely XKR complemented me on the car - which was also a good start! So then it was on to my mate's garage where I could drive straight onto the ramp for MOT. Things started well, with everything underneath being ok, and even the headlights were perfectly aimed, which was a surprise! Then things went a little downhill!




The next job was to double check the timing, idle and mixture before finishing the test. The timing was relatively straightforward and easily set. However we then started looking at the fuelling - firstly the idle speed was being quite erratic - sometimes 1200 rpm, then falling to 600. Having got the idle sort of stable we then stuck a probe in to try and get the mixture set - it was quite clear from the smell that it was rich - the problem was that even winding the mixture screw right in was making virtually no difference - and we were sitting very high on both HCs and CO. Having tried, we left it in a position where it would run ok and decided I should swap the carb over for the original HIF38 rather than the current HIF44 to then try again.

So finally it was brake test time - the fronts looked ok, the rears looked a bit on the weak side on the footbrake, and then the handbrake was non-existent on the nearside with slightly more (but still not much)on the offside.



So we have a fail and it is therefore still not quite finished, but at least another step closer to being done! For now it is back in the garage and I will get cracking on swapping the carb and sorting the brakes...

browno

Original Poster:

529 posts

263 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
quotequote all
Time for a BIG update! I now have an MOT'd mini for the first time since August 1993!

All problems sorted - we had both clearly had a daft moment on the emissions, and we're turning the mixture screw the wrong way - as I have screwed out the screw and it reduced the unburnt petrol smell significantly - and when we checked the emissions were easily set to a safe and stable number - and it runs much better!

I have also been busy sorting the handbrake - having stripped and rebuilt both drums again (nothing really found - but a little air removed when we gave it another bleed). We still had virtually no handbrake one side, even with the cable adjusted right up. I bought a new cable thinking that has stretched, but in replacing it we found the cause - one of the handbrake quadrants had been fitted upside down - which evidently wasn't giving enough pull at the drum. With that turned over and the new cable fitted and adjusted I now have a working handbrake- it just needed a tweak of the adjuster to get through

Now to get some miles put on it and then get it properly set up on the dyno...

We did have one problem while it was running in the workshop - head seems to be building up around the LCB causing fuel evaporation which then causes the car to stop - I assume the solution here is either a fuel line re-route (electric pump?) or heat-wrap the LCB (or both?).