Bike weight into context
Bike weight into context
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Steve vRS

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5,391 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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I am looking to buy a new wheel set and am considering a pair of the Wiggle Cosine 45mm carbon wheels and Huntwheels 50mm ones. The former are over £450 cheaper but weight about 120g more. I have been over thinking this and have come to the conclusion that it would make the sum total of flip all to me.

To put the difference into context,120g is 4 teaspoons. Yes, I weighed them. That £450 saved will give the kids and me a great long weekend away somewhere which in 10 years time will mean a lot more than 10 places higher up the KOM table in the Cat and Fiddle or one higher place in the local club 10 tt.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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That's £3.75 a gram...
You could probably save the same weight by wearing duffetent socks or something for a fraction of the cost.

Jimbo.

4,213 posts

218 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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All this weight bks gives choppers another thing to drone on about at the cafe.

Steve vRS

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5,391 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Nyphur said:
That's £3.75 a gram.
When you put it like that, it's quite a bargain.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Steve vRS said:
10 places higher up the KOM table in the Cat and Fiddle or one higher place in the local club 10 tt.
I bet you won't even get that. hehe


mcelliott

10,471 posts

210 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Take a dump.

Steve vRS

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5,391 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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And of course, carry fewer teaspoons.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Brompton titanium bikes are a good example. £300+ for some titanium bits.
Most of the weight saving is due to not getting a pump with titanium..

ALawson

8,054 posts

280 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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All true but aren't hub spares for the Cosines difficult to get hold off? Plenty of other hand built options which fall price wise between the two.

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

159 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Above about 10mph it's more the aero that makes a difference. Are your quick release levers pointing to the rear for maximum aero effect?

Steve vRS

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5,391 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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WaferThinHam said:
Above about 10mph it's more the aero that makes a difference.
It's the 3mph bit going up Hard Knott that is at the back of my mind at the moment!

I am looking into local wheel builders too.

mikecassie

673 posts

188 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Just before you decide on pure price... The shape of the rim has a lot to do when cycling in sidewinds, well it does to me who is <60kgs. I did have Mavic's on my bike when it arrived and I had a few scares when cycling along in sidewinds. I've a different set of wheels now and they don't make me soil my chamois in sidewinds and are still deeper section.
The Mavics were a pointy shape rim and the new set are more rounded and wider.
The final scare was one day cycling down a slight gradient round a long open corner on the LH side of the road and finding myself suddenly on the whiteline, it felt like I'd been lifted up and plonked down there. A few more inches and I'd have been on the wrong side of the road, not a cool situation to find myself in.
StevevRS, I take it you're entered in the FW this year? Hopefully I'll make it this year, I was entered last year too but work managed to ruin my plans... This year I'm better prepared to prevent them doing that. :-)

gazza285

11,113 posts

237 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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How much? I'd be hard pressed to justify spending that sort of money for the Wiggle wheels, let alone the Hunts. Train a bit harder, you'll see more benefit than saving a couple of tea spoons, and enjoy your weekend away...

Chicken Chaser

9,051 posts

253 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Lighter wheels do make a difference to the ride (although that may be down to quality of hubs, stiffness and materials too), but I'm comparing a 2kg set to a 1400g set. If I was thinking of a 120g difference, I doubt you'll feel it.

I did read somewhere that someone had done a calculation on how time someone would save on a mile ascent with different weighted bikes. 2 bikes with 3lbs difference and the lighter bike was only 7 seconds quicker with the same power output!

Edited by Chicken Chaser on Saturday 28th January 12:57

z4RRSchris

12,515 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Pretty sure the cosine ones are crap.

Just get the Alu hunt ones

BenGismo

299 posts

197 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Having got 5 different wheel sets and tried many more I can honestly say that weight does make a difference even if it is quite small. Its quite a large impact on mountain biking where the wheels are constantly moving over ruts,roots etc and is easy to feel the lower inertia when you are accelerating quickly out of a corner and when braking into a switchback. If light tyres make the bike feel better then so do light wheels.

Depends what you call better though??? Stronger?...Stiffer?...more robust...better looking??

On a road bike though....id imagine the difference to be very minor and hardly noticable at all really. I certainly wouldnt pay anywhere near those prices for wheels.

I decided to build by own wheels (29ers/700) which come in 110g lighter than the carbon hunt wheels above (even though they include MTB disc hubs) but they cost me about £270 in parts total. They feel great, so easy to accelerate.

Id never pay an extra £500 to loose 120g...there are easier ways to loose that weight.

Edited by BenGismo on Saturday 28th January 19:54

Steve vRS

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5,391 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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z4RRSchris said:
Pretty sure the cosine ones are crap.

Just get the Alu hunt ones
Would you like to expand on that statement?

TSCfree

1,681 posts

260 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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What are you going to use them for Steve, TT's?

I just sling on my Chinese tubs for TT's, everything else lightweight ally rims FTW.

Edited by TSCfree on Saturday 28th January 22:09

Steve vRS

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5,391 posts

270 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Hi Si, they will be used for everything from the local TTs, general rides and the 24hr Nurburgring race in July.

And of course, impressing the ladies who we all know, love a set of deep section wheels biggrin

z4RRSchris

12,515 posts

208 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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the cosine ones have hubs that are very hard to service.

the Alu hunt ones are sub £400 and 1400g > top notch

if your just after deep rims i have some 50mm planet x i'm getting rid of.