Best flip up lid
Discussion
I hate that I am asking this question as I never thought I would consider one. But I like the idea of being able to flip my lid up on the front at stations and when stopping- for commuting only!!.
I don't want to compromise on safety and I would prefer it not to sit at the front of the helmet stuck up in the air
What about the shark evo one that folds back behind your head?
I don't want to compromise on safety and I would prefer it not to sit at the front of the helmet stuck up in the air
What about the shark evo one that folds back behind your head?
I really like my Shark Evo One. Had the Evo 3 for previous 4 years and changed when the new one came out. They have made lots of small improvements over the years, and its my favourite "go to" helmet these days.
The Shark is one of the few thats tested/homologated in both positions for riding as both full face and jet style helmet. A number of Police forces use them. I think they are great VFM too compared with other premium helmets.
The Shark is one of the few thats tested/homologated in both positions for riding as both full face and jet style helmet. A number of Police forces use them. I think they are great VFM too compared with other premium helmets.
HammyUK said:
C3Pro until they are.
Quieter, lighter and better made than anything else out there.
Helmet City are the "go to" company for the best deals too.
Quieter, lighter and better made than anything else out there.
Helmet City are the "go to" company for the best deals too.
DuraAce said:
obscene said:
Schuberth C3 surely?
C4 available very soon. New integrated Bluetooth system by Sena. Looking at one for myself once they are in shops and I can examine one. And helmet city are awesome, a ridiculous amount of helmets on show
My local one is a pleasant 45 minute ride away.
C3Pro can be had for a lot less that £500
Remember the later comms can't be used on the C3 as the collar is different so you'll be stuck with reduced functions, no software update as Schuberth aren't supporting it now and the sound quality is a lot lower than the Pro.
Also the Pro as separate speakers so you can use your own unlike the original.
The Pro is updated via Cardo as with their own brand units.
Remember the later comms can't be used on the C3 as the collar is different so you'll be stuck with reduced functions, no software update as Schuberth aren't supporting it now and the sound quality is a lot lower than the Pro.
Also the Pro as separate speakers so you can use your own unlike the original.
The Pro is updated via Cardo as with their own brand units.
I went flip-front lid shopping a few weeks back... couldn't get away with the Schuberth so bought a Neotec which instantly felt more 'right' for my head.
I couldn't agree that the Schuberth is somehow better built than the Shoei, certainly seemed a bit creakier in the composite and the Shoei seemed to me to close more solidly.
As to weight, using feel alone I can't tell the difference between the Neo and my old AGV S4 and I never thought that was a heavy helmet.
I do get the impression that the Neo is quite bulky though, as viewed in the mirror
Reading around the internet of doomsayers, the Neotec is either the best thing since Viagra or leaks like a sieve and is noisy. As I haven't actually ridden anywhere in mine yet I'll have to reserve comment... but if you check back to this thread, say, around the end of June after anothr Euro-thrash I'll let you know one way or the other!
Sena have created an integrated comms system (the SMH10U) for the Neotec which seems to have had more issues than you can shake a stick at which is a bit bad when it costs £200+. I was going to splurge on one of those as well but now I'm waiting...
I couldn't agree that the Schuberth is somehow better built than the Shoei, certainly seemed a bit creakier in the composite and the Shoei seemed to me to close more solidly.
As to weight, using feel alone I can't tell the difference between the Neo and my old AGV S4 and I never thought that was a heavy helmet.
I do get the impression that the Neo is quite bulky though, as viewed in the mirror
Reading around the internet of doomsayers, the Neotec is either the best thing since Viagra or leaks like a sieve and is noisy. As I haven't actually ridden anywhere in mine yet I'll have to reserve comment... but if you check back to this thread, say, around the end of June after anothr Euro-thrash I'll let you know one way or the other!
Sena have created an integrated comms system (the SMH10U) for the Neotec which seems to have had more issues than you can shake a stick at which is a bit bad when it costs £200+. I was going to splurge on one of those as well but now I'm waiting...
BMW are about to launch the System 7. It looks pretty good and with the shell being carbon fibre, it'll be one of the lightest flip fronts on the market. I'm sure it'll be expensive but I suspect it'll be in the running for the "best" flip front status.
http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/uk/en/equipment/syst...
http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/uk/en/equipment/syst...
Personally it'd be Shoei Neotec or Schuberth C3 Pro currently. We have had a lot more warranty issues with the basic. The C4 may be something you want to wait for though.
As someone suggested above the System 7 helmet is due out but I wouldn't expect it to be the same quality as previous BMW helmets as they are no longer made by Schuberth. They are made by LS2 now so expect cheap Chinese helmet with expensive German price.
As someone suggested above the System 7 helmet is due out but I wouldn't expect it to be the same quality as previous BMW helmets as they are no longer made by Schuberth. They are made by LS2 now so expect cheap Chinese helmet with expensive German price.
SAS Tom said:
As someone suggested above the System 7 helmet is due out but I wouldn't expect it to be the same quality as previous BMW helmets as they are no longer made by Schuberth. They are made by LS2 now so expect cheap Chinese helmet with expensive German price.
There made in Italy, not China!bogie said:
I really like my Shark Evo One. Had the Evo 3 for previous 4 years and changed when the new one came out. They have made lots of small improvements over the years, and its my favourite "go to" helmet these days.
The Shark is one of the few thats tested/homologated in both positions for riding as both full face and jet style helmet. A number of Police forces use them. I think they are great VFM too compared with other premium helmets.
Fully agree with this. I've had all of the Evoline helmets since they were introduced, the Evo One definitely the best now that it comes with a Pinlock visor.The Shark is one of the few thats tested/homologated in both positions for riding as both full face and jet style helmet. A number of Police forces use them. I think they are great VFM too compared with other premium helmets.
Although the BMW System 7 helmet addresses the issue of many flip front helmets, in that it allows the rider to ride "open face" with a visor still in place, the Evoline has always had this ability, and you still don't need to find a cubby hole to store your chin bar, or stop to remove it or replace it.
Shark helmets don't suit everyone, head shapes seem to determine comfort more than most, from what I understand, but I'm very happy with mine.
As Bogie has pointed out, they are homologated for use in both settings, unlike most of the other flip front helmets, and you don't ride around with a sail on top of your head.
Ventilation was an issue, especially with visor misting in heavy rain, but the Pinlock on the Evo One has taken care of that.
Wouldn't have a flip front lid on safety grounds.
About 8 yrs ago i was filtering through town at 20 mph ish. Pedestrian ran out between two vans while i was filtering past a long line of traffic. I hit him, he came up over the top of the bike. The impact caused the chin guard of my Schuberth S1 to hit the fuel filler cap.
He got thrown to the side of the road in a crumpled heap. I wrestled the bike to a stop. Parked it by the side of the road. Ambulance. Police. Messy.
Anyway. My point is, if i had been wearing a flip front lid, that's exactly the scenario where i would've had the flip front up. And it would have been my face that took the impact against the tank
As it happens the tank took the impact. The result was the filler cap area was pushed in by about 1/2 and inch. God knows what that energy would have done to my face...
About 8 yrs ago i was filtering through town at 20 mph ish. Pedestrian ran out between two vans while i was filtering past a long line of traffic. I hit him, he came up over the top of the bike. The impact caused the chin guard of my Schuberth S1 to hit the fuel filler cap.
He got thrown to the side of the road in a crumpled heap. I wrestled the bike to a stop. Parked it by the side of the road. Ambulance. Police. Messy.
Anyway. My point is, if i had been wearing a flip front lid, that's exactly the scenario where i would've had the flip front up. And it would have been my face that took the impact against the tank
As it happens the tank took the impact. The result was the filler cap area was pushed in by about 1/2 and inch. God knows what that energy would have done to my face...
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