987 Boxster S Manual - Floppy Gear Lever

[jezzaaa]

Hi all,

Hoping someone might be kind enough to advise me.

A few weeks back, I was driving along and the gear lever went floppy. It was stuck in 6th gear so I nursed it over to the specialist, who diagnosed a transmission cable. Replaced...all fine, with a warning that the clutch was 80% worn.

This afternoon, driving along...gear lever went floppy ... but not as floppy. I couldn't select 1st, 2nd or reverse...but it would go 3th-6th, although with a very loose action. So I took it back into the specialist.

A couple of hours later...and he's telling me that the clutch needs replacing. And that when that's out, they'll need to inspect the flywheel (for what I don't know).

So I questioned him, saying that clutch was ok...and why would a worn clutch mean the gear lever would go floppy and only be able to select some gears (without graunching I might add)!

I should add that the garage concerned is in Abu Dhabi...but also that they have an excellent reputation and I've used them before and been very happy with them.

So...is there any possible relationship between a worn clutch and a floppy gear lever??

Thanks all,

J.

[Slippydiff]

Worn clutch means ineffective clutch clearance whilst changing gear. That in turn means the synchros are having to work harder, which in turn means YOU are having to force the lever, ergo more strain on the change cables (which are a known weak point). Highly likely the other cable has now failed or the fitting on the end sheared off.
Enjoy your new clutch when it's fitted, it'll. e lighter, smoother and more progressive, and the gearshift will be nicer too

Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 1st February 12:54

[jezzaaa]

Slippydiff said:

Worn clutch means ineffective clutch clearance whilst changing gear. That in turn means the synchros are having to work harder, which in turn means YOU are having to force the lever, ergo more strain on the change cables (which are a known weak point)
Enjoy your new clutch when it's fitted, it'll. eighter, smoother and more progressive, and the gearshift will be nicer too

Hi Slippy Thanks very much...makes sense. So I guess the possible conclusion is that the cables have snapped again because of the additional strain. Which explains the floppy stick. I was confused because, as I said, it would go into 3rd-6th gears without too problem.

So one other thing...do you know what they want to check with the fly wheel?

Ta,
J.

[Slippydiff]

Routine procedure, as depending on the mileage, the face of the flywheel maybe worn.
They use a dual mass item, won't be cheap to replace if it's unserviceable ...
(and being a dualmass item, I suspect it can't be refaced)

[jezzaaa]

Slippydiff said:

Routine procedure, as depending on the mileage, the face of the flywheel maybe worn.
They use a dual mass item, won't be cheap to replace if it's unserviceable ...
(and being a dualmass item, I suspect it can't be refaced)

Cheers dude.

J.

[jezzaaa]

Slippydiff said:

Routine procedure, as depending on the mileage, the face of the flywheel maybe worn.
They use a dual mass item, won't be cheap to replace if it's unserviceable ...
(and being a dualmass item, I suspect it can't be refaced)

Hmmm just looked at prices for the flywheel...:O

The cars done 85,000km so hoping it won't need one!!

[finestjammy]

jezzaaa said:

Hmmm just looked at prices for the flywheel...:O

The cars done 85,000km so hoping it won't need one!!

Is it a 987.1 or .2 that you have. 987.2 are a Porsche OPC only part at the moment, circa £800 but an OEM 987.1 can be he'd for citca £200 if you shop around from memory. Mines a 987.2 S and I had to get an OPC flywheel swapped at 50k miles.

[jezzaaa]

finestjammy said:

Is it a 987.1 or .2 that you have. 987.2 are a Porsche OPC only part at the moment, circa £800 but an OEM 987.1 can be he'd for citca £200 if you shop around from memory. Mines a 987.2 S and I had to get an OPC flywheel swapped at 50k miles.

Hi ya Jammy - mine's a 987.1..I'll have a look around ta

[finestjammy]

jezzaaa said:

Hi ya Jammy - mine's a 987.1..I'll have a look around ta

Have a google for a 'PET' diagram for a 987.1. You can then identify the correct part number for the flywheel. From memory it's an LuK item and I'm sure I found them for £200-£250 when I was looking. Unfortunately for me the 987.2 version was only available via the OPC, £800 was with a discount too.

Good luck.

James.

PS
I'm not sure how the parts market operates in your region of the world, but I imagine most suppliers will ship globally if the shipping is paid up front.

[jezzaaa]

finestjammy said:

Have a google for a 'PET' diagram for a 987.1. You can then identify the correct part number for the flywheel. From memory it's an LuK item and I'm sure I found them for £200-£250 when I was looking. Unfortunately for me the 987.2 version was only available via the OPC, £800 was with a discount too.

Good luck.

James.

PS
I'm not sure how the parts market operates in your region of the world, but I imagine most suppliers will ship globally if the shipping is paid up front.

Hi Jammy - thanks again. It is confirmed..the flywheel needs replacing. So are the LuK ones ok to use? Any history of problems etc?

Thanks,
J.

[Slippydiff]

Nope they're all good these days. The 964 items had issues, long since resolved.
There is however an alternative for your car ....:

http://www.aascomotorsports.com/search

[jezzaaa]

Slippydiff said:

Nope they're all good these days. The 964 items had issues, long since resolved.
There is however an alternative for your car ....:

http://www.aascomotorsports.com/search

Thanks so much The garage has ordered the LuK kit, and I've saved about 900 quid in parts over the Porsche prices!! Result

[Slippydiff]

jezzaaa said:

Thanks so much The garage has ordered the LuK kit, and I've saved about 900 quid in parts over the Porsche prices!! Result

Look forward to hearing about your new, lighter clutch and improved gearshifting experiences.

[finestjammy]

Slippydiff said:

Nope they're all good these days. The 964 items had issues, long since resolved.
There is however an alternative for your car ....:

http://www.aascomotorsports.com/search

Is that definitely for a gen 2/987.2? The flywheels have different part numbers from gen 1 to gen 2. Myself and my indie searched high and low for the gen 2 version and couldn't find it on the open market, only from the OPC. I'll just be gutted if i spend the extra few hundred being a Yorkshireman

Edit:
Unless they've become available on the open market since I had mine done in October.

Edited by finestjammy on Sunday 5th February 11:24

[jezzaaa]

Been reading articles on here and elsewhere...building my IMS paranoia! I mentioned this to the specialist, and he advised fitting the IMS Bearing Direct Oil Feed upgrade from Turner Motor Sports. It looks like a great solution. So I've told him to go ahead...and that's my 900 quid that I saved on the clutch/DMF now spent again!!

Edited by jezzaaa on Wednesday 8th February 05:22

[jezzaaa]

Slippydiff said:

Look forward to hearing about your new, lighter clutch and improved gearshifting experiences.

Got the car back today. Wow, what a difference! Gearshifts and clutch feel so much better...and oh the peace of mind on the IMS thing. The garage took some pics of the installation...brilliant! Thanks again for all the advice chaps