335i that hasn't had any major parts replaced, worth buying?
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2009 model, ~65k miles, 1 owner. No major engine parts replaced such as the high pressure fuel pump, claims it doesn't have the waste gate rattle either. BMW service history until the last service which was done independently
Worth buying or only a matter of time before things go wrong? Or is it like any other car, based on luck?
Cheers in advance and sorry if I've missed anything
Worth buying or only a matter of time before things go wrong? Or is it like any other car, based on luck?
Cheers in advance and sorry if I've missed anything
yus786 said:
2009 model, ~65k miles, 1 owner. No major engine parts replaced such as the high pressure fuel pump, claims it doesn't have the waste gate rattle either. BMW service history until the last service which was done independently
Worth buying or only a matter of time before things go wrong? Or is it like any other car, based on luck?
Cheers in advance and sorry if I've missed anything
I bought a 2009, 59 in 2014 @ 59k for the very reason that unlike the other cars I looked at this one had nothing go wrong with it. I ran it to 85k with only the injectors needing doing at 75k. Worth buying or only a matter of time before things go wrong? Or is it like any other car, based on luck?
Cheers in advance and sorry if I've missed anything
So in the answer to your question, if it checks out in all other ways don't be put off. I know if cars that have had several high pressure fuel pumps go, having the parts done once does not seem to guarantee trouble free.
Smuler said:
I bought a 2009, 59 in 2014 @ 59k for the very reason that unlike the other cars I looked at this one had nothing go wrong with it. I ran it to 85k with only the injectors needing doing at 75k.
So in the answer to your question, if it checks out in all other ways don't be put off. I know if cars that have had several high pressure fuel pumps go, having the parts done once does not seem to guarantee trouble free.
Thank you, how much did you pay for yours and what do you think the one in the OP is worth roughly? Not many around so don't know if the price I'm seeing is cheap or notSo in the answer to your question, if it checks out in all other ways don't be put off. I know if cars that have had several high pressure fuel pumps go, having the parts done once does not seem to guarantee trouble free.
yus786 said:
Smuler said:
I bought a 2009, 59 in 2014 @ 59k for the very reason that unlike the other cars I looked at this one had nothing go wrong with it. I ran it to 85k with only the injectors needing doing at 75k.
So in the answer to your question, if it checks out in all other ways don't be put off. I know if cars that have had several high pressure fuel pumps go, having the parts done once does not seem to guarantee trouble free.
Thank you, how much did you pay for yours and what do you think the one in the OP is worth roughly? Not many around so don't know if the price I'm seeing is cheap or notSo in the answer to your question, if it checks out in all other ways don't be put off. I know if cars that have had several high pressure fuel pumps go, having the parts done once does not seem to guarantee trouble free.
You don't give much details, so with prices bring variable it's hard to say as gearbox and spec play a part. But even with mileage I wouldn't have thought they would ask much over 11,500£ as Approved Used cars are mid teens at most. So a private sale can be lower, but because of rarity I don't think 09s with low mileage would get to 10k£
I had tunnel vision and was thinking of those like mine
M sport Coupes which i expect to command a 1500 to 2000£ premium over a SE saloon, but saying that for the mileage I think that's a decent price. SEs, you need to check build sheet to be 100% , should also have the sports seats / suspension which is key so in essence only difference with M sport would be cosmetic, better but not an absolute deal breaker.
Lack of leather I don't like and that might have driven price down.
It says (apart from last) full BMW service history, but make sure all stamps are in the book. It's a problem I have seen on the E90s with suspiciously long gaps between oil services. With 1 owner, big plus in my book, you've got a good chance of it all being done.
M sport Coupes which i expect to command a 1500 to 2000£ premium over a SE saloon, but saying that for the mileage I think that's a decent price. SEs, you need to check build sheet to be 100% , should also have the sports seats / suspension which is key so in essence only difference with M sport would be cosmetic, better but not an absolute deal breaker.
Lack of leather I don't like and that might have driven price down.
It says (apart from last) full BMW service history, but make sure all stamps are in the book. It's a problem I have seen on the E90s with suspiciously long gaps between oil services. With 1 owner, big plus in my book, you've got a good chance of it all being done.
I have a 2006 335i (N54) all it's needed in my six years and 55k miles of ownership have been one HPFP and one water pump. The HPFP cured a cold running niggle, the water pump failed. It's been under BMW warranty all that time so I've no reason not to have things replaced as and when necessary. However I'm now selling the at 86k and every time someone emails or calls they seem to expect new this, that or the next thing...
Edited by FastNReliable1 on Friday 3rd February 21:52
yus786 said:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017... this one here
Use your imagination? 
FastNReliable1 said:
Use your imagination?
apologies the ad has expired, I can't remember everything but off the top of my head it was a 4 door 59 plate SE, 65k miles, FSH, 1 owner from new, cloth interior, xenons, upgraded sat nav, bluetooth, dab, front and rear sensors, folding mirrors (not sure if any of these come as standard tbh). Oh and it was £8.5k but I think he'd take £8k. Said he dropped it from £9kEdited by yus786 on Friday 3rd February 22:08
yus786 said:
apologies the ad has expired, I can't remember everything but off the top of my head it was a 59 plate SE, 65k miles, FSH, 1 owner from new, cloth interior, xenons, upgraded sat nav, bluetooth, dab, front and rear sensors, folding mirrors (not sure if any of these come as standard tbh). Oh and it was £8.5k but I think he'd take £8k. Said he dropped it from £9k
Encouraging, as I'm going to advertise mine again soon.I looked at an '58 LCI SE 335i (manual, cloth and no nav) at about 49k miles which was up at £9k. Trader didn't allow test drives, history seemed patchy and bodywork was tatty, so naturally didn't buy it.
I ended up spending a lot more (£14k) on the only other LCI manual 335i I could find (slightly less mileage, M Sport, leather and pro nav).
Prices are all over the place, but LCI models are definitely a wedge more, possibly due to lower tax band and far better iDrive system.
I ended up spending a lot more (£14k) on the only other LCI manual 335i I could find (slightly less mileage, M Sport, leather and pro nav).
Prices are all over the place, but LCI models are definitely a wedge more, possibly due to lower tax band and far better iDrive system.
Mike335i said:
I looked at an '58 LCI SE 335i (manual, cloth and no nav) at about 49k miles which was up at £9k. Trader didn't allow test drives, history seemed patchy and bodywork was tatty, so naturally didn't buy it.
I ended up spending a lot more (£14k) on the only other LCI manual 335i I could find (slightly less mileage, M Sport, leather and pro nav).
Prices are all over the place, but LCI models are definitely a wedge more, possibly due to lower tax band and far better iDrive system.
Thank you, did you buy yours recently?I ended up spending a lot more (£14k) on the only other LCI manual 335i I could find (slightly less mileage, M Sport, leather and pro nav).
Prices are all over the place, but LCI models are definitely a wedge more, possibly due to lower tax band and far better iDrive system.
At 65K miles the water pump will be on its last legs.
A short test should tell you all you need to know about the condition of the HPFP, injectors, coils. A short test drive may not uncover some potentially lurking issues; with age Vanos solenoids can wear. They are operated by oil pressure so symptoms often only show when the engine is very hot ( and the oil pressure is low ). The symptoms are engine warning light and limp mode. Easy and cheap to fix, several threads and videos online about sorting it out.
ABS/DSC control units often fail on all the E9* series cars. Expensive to sort out on a 335i with BMW parts; however not too bad to sort by using someone like http://www.ecutesting.com/
I ran a 2006 E92 from 42K miles to 90K. It was running an Evolve map from 50k; consequently, with the extra stress the map was putting on the fuel pump & injectors I was expecting to have some issues at some point. Never missed a beat though.
Wastegate rattle first became noticeable at about 70k but was still minor at 90k; the car felt every bit as fit at 90k as it did when it was first mapped
I still miss that car and I'm considering getting another 335i........ I really fancy an M235i though, 40 more horsepower as standard and less weight.
A short test should tell you all you need to know about the condition of the HPFP, injectors, coils. A short test drive may not uncover some potentially lurking issues; with age Vanos solenoids can wear. They are operated by oil pressure so symptoms often only show when the engine is very hot ( and the oil pressure is low ). The symptoms are engine warning light and limp mode. Easy and cheap to fix, several threads and videos online about sorting it out.
ABS/DSC control units often fail on all the E9* series cars. Expensive to sort out on a 335i with BMW parts; however not too bad to sort by using someone like http://www.ecutesting.com/
I ran a 2006 E92 from 42K miles to 90K. It was running an Evolve map from 50k; consequently, with the extra stress the map was putting on the fuel pump & injectors I was expecting to have some issues at some point. Never missed a beat though.
Wastegate rattle first became noticeable at about 70k but was still minor at 90k; the car felt every bit as fit at 90k as it did when it was first mapped
I still miss that car and I'm considering getting another 335i........ I really fancy an M235i though, 40 more horsepower as standard and less weight.
Edited by Crackie on Sunday 5th February 21:43
At 65K miles the water pump will be on its last legs.
A short test should tell you all you need to know about the condition of the HPFP, injectors, coils. A short test drive may not uncover some potentially lurking issues; with age Vanos solenoids can wear. They are operated by oil pressure so symptoms often only show when the engine is very hot ( and the oil pressure is low ). The symptoms are engine warning light and limp mode. Easy and cheap to fix, several threads and videos online about sorting it out.
ABS/DSC control units often fail on all the E9* series cars. Expensive to sort out on a 335i with BMW parts; however not too bad to sort by using someone like http://www.ecutesting.com/
I ran a 2006 E92 from 42K miles to 90K. It was running an Evolve map from 50k; consequently, with the extra stress the map was putting on the fuel pump & injectors I was expecting to have some issues at some point. Never missed a beat though.
Wastegate rattle first became noticeable at about 70k but was still minor at 90k; the car felt every bit as fit at 90k as it did when it was first mapped
A short test should tell you all you need to know about the condition of the HPFP, injectors, coils. A short test drive may not uncover some potentially lurking issues; with age Vanos solenoids can wear. They are operated by oil pressure so symptoms often only show when the engine is very hot ( and the oil pressure is low ). The symptoms are engine warning light and limp mode. Easy and cheap to fix, several threads and videos online about sorting it out.
ABS/DSC control units often fail on all the E9* series cars. Expensive to sort out on a 335i with BMW parts; however not too bad to sort by using someone like http://www.ecutesting.com/
I ran a 2006 E92 from 42K miles to 90K. It was running an Evolve map from 50k; consequently, with the extra stress the map was putting on the fuel pump & injectors I was expecting to have some issues at some point. Never missed a beat though.
Wastegate rattle first became noticeable at about 70k but was still minor at 90k; the car felt every bit as fit at 90k as it did when it was first mapped
Edited by Crackie on Sunday 5th February 21:49
An HPFP failure isn't the end of the world especially if you're half competent with spanners. I changed one on a mate's 2008 135i (that has has only done 46k and also had ECU and DSC module failure in last 5k miles) a couple of weeks ago, and although the new pump is about £5-600 it's only a couple of hours work to change with no other parts required.
I also did the DSC module via a repair with ECUTesting, thats about £250 and half an hour each to remove then replace it plus about an hour to bleed the brakes. The only tricky part is you really need access to a laptop with the BMW DIS diagnostic tools to get the DSC module into brake bleeding mode.
I also did the DSC module via a repair with ECUTesting, thats about £250 and half an hour each to remove then replace it plus about an hour to bleed the brakes. The only tricky part is you really need access to a laptop with the BMW DIS diagnostic tools to get the DSC module into brake bleeding mode.
Edited by LocoBlade on Saturday 4th February 22:24
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