Cayman GT4 rear suspension / roll cage noise on harsh bumps
Cayman GT4 rear suspension / roll cage noise on harsh bumps
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chrisABP

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1,117 posts

170 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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My Cayman GT4 Clubsport spec has an irritating noise from the rear (both sides) when the car goes over certain bumps in the road surface, particularly harsh bumps (sunken grid tops, slight pot holes) at moderate speeds.
Initially thought it was maybe a damper issue or something loose but had a brief look around and can't see anything amiss on a ramp. Now thinking it sounds like the noise is 'in the car' and suspect maybe it's one of the roll cage joints but it does happen at both sides of the car and I've never known a roll cage to make such noises...???
Guess I'll have to book it in to OPC and see if they can come up with the cause if I can't get my head around it...

GT4P

5,761 posts

207 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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They all do that! Don't have a cs but you do here noises when you go over harsh bumps someone else will be along to explain better but I think it is made worse with cs!

jcosh

1,241 posts

254 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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chrisABP said:
My Cayman GT4 Clubsport spec has an irritating noise from the rear (both sides) when the car goes over certain bumps in the road surface, particularly harsh bumps (sunken grid tops, slight pot holes) at moderate speeds.
Initially thought it was maybe a damper issue or something loose but had a brief look around and can't see anything amiss on a ramp. Now thinking it sounds like the noise is 'in the car' and suspect maybe it's one of the roll cage joints but it does happen at both sides of the car and I've never known a roll cage to make such noises...???
Guess I'll have to book it in to OPC and see if they can come up with the cause if I can't get my head around it...
I've heard other CS owners say the same. I think it was identified as the bolts that fix part of the cage, but others may know better. My car's not a CS.

av185

20,464 posts

149 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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From previous reports it appears this kind of noise is typical on the clubsport caused by flexing of the bodywork and the fixing points.

Fwiw GT4 suspension is quite noisy anyway especially over e.g. sunken manhole covers etc.

chrisABP

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1,117 posts

170 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Oh.....

I have spoken to a couple of other GT4 owners and they both said they also had 'noises' from the rear but I'm struggling to accept its the way they all are as something is very obviously not right.

Think my OCD with noises might get me hooked on finding the cause and a solution...

HokumPokum

2,082 posts

227 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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chrisABP said:
Oh.....

I have spoken to a couple of other GT4 owners and they both said they also had 'noises' from the rear but I'm struggling to accept its the way they all are as something is very obviously not right.

Think my OCD with noises might get me hooked on finding the cause and a solution...
normal.. wait till you try one with a full FIA spec cage.

430scuderia1

455 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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chrisABP said:
Oh.....

I have spoken to a couple of other GT4 owners and they both said they also had 'noises' from the rear but I'm struggling to accept its the way they all are as something is very obviously not right.

Think my OCD with noises might get me hooked on finding the cause and a solution...
Defo OCD, all GT Porsches with cages make strange noises, they just don't like bumps...

clewsey

66 posts

133 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Mine also does this. Is CS spec too. I put it down to the rollcage flex as it handles perfectly.

Slippydiff

15,943 posts

245 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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430scuderia1 said:
Defo OCD, all GT Porsches with cages make strange noises, they just don't like bumps...
'Tis true, the majority seem to.

Fish

4,056 posts

304 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Mine does it and after seeing some leeds cars go in for new dampers my guys at Notts had a look they agreed it sounded odd and replaced dampers.... just drove it yesterday and it still does it...

I think it is when the shocks are cold and have been left to stand. Once it has clanged once it is normally pretty much ok...

Would love to know what is making the noise thought and why!

chrisABP

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1,117 posts

170 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Right so this noise is apparently 'normal' for a GT4, but has anybody actually found the cause of the noise or been back to OPC under warranty for investigation or clarification??

Can't understand why the noise is present in the 1st place, why it seems to be accepted and why it can't be rectified. I do like a challenge!

Slippydiff

15,943 posts

245 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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It didn't affect every Mk 1 996 GT3 Clubsport, but I know of several cars that had the issue.
Adjusting and tightening the cage fixings (both where the rear sections met, and the mounting points to the rear turrets) had no effect.
My second car was noisy with PSS9's fitted, when I put it back on to standard dampers and springs, it was silent. Read into that what you will.

chrisABP

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1,117 posts

170 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Slippydiff said:
It didn't affect every Mk 1 996 GT3 Clubsport, but I know of several cars that had the issue.
Adjusting and tightening the cage fixings (both where the rear sections met, and the mounting points to the rear turrets) had no effect.
My second car was noisy with PSS9's fitted, when I put it back on to standard dampers and springs, it was silent. Read into that what you will.
Thanks for the feedback and my initial thought was suspension but now it does sound like the noise could be internal in the cabin so need to investigate further. Hey, might even find a solution...!

Fish

4,056 posts

304 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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Let me know when you do! There was a thread on rennlist about it as well.

jackwood

2,906 posts

230 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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Just had a thought.

The Cayman has, I believe, a "weight" in the rear hatch that is designed to remove resonance from the rear hatch. I had one of the very first 987 Cayman and I remember now a lot of chatter about this weight making noises.

I'm now wondering if the the GT4 just throws this weight around more under certain conditions.

Something to look into, Chris?

av185

20,464 posts

149 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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Interesting that the GT3/RS seem much less prone to cage noise.

jackwood

2,906 posts

230 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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av185 said:
Interesting that the GT3/RS seem much less prone to cage noise.
Probably because it's not cage noise.

This specific noise effects non-CS GT4 cars as well.

pec996

34 posts

151 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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If its a high pitched squeak at shoulder height its coming from a very small bit of the seat belt mechanism that just touches the cage. Get a small bit of rubber and make it wedge shaped, get a small pair of pliers and wedge it between the two, trust me it works!

As for the cage, yup, they all do that

mdianuk

2,893 posts

193 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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I think it will be the clunk over pot holes we spoke about Chris. Not cage related. Sounds very strange but seems common.

GT4P

5,761 posts

207 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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mdianuk said:
I think it will be the clunk over pot holes we spoke about Chris. Not cage related. Sounds very strange but seems common.
And it seems that it is the rear suspension making the clunk and not the fronts