Parking 5 min grace period?
Parking 5 min grace period?
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sorin1987

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155 posts

141 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Last Saturday I had to stop across the street from a shop where I needed to buy somthing from.
There were a lot of empty parking spaces, at least 7 or 8. There was a parking warden (or parking attendant, I am not sure what are they called) giving a notice to a car parked there. I got out of the car and asked him if I can leave my car there for no more than 1 minute until I buy something from accross the street. He said If you leave your car here and you don't pay I will give you a ticket even for 1 minute? My wife will still be in the car and I won't even turn off the engine.
He kept insisting that he will give me a ticket.
I payed the 70p for 30 mins. But I wasted more time finding change and paying than if I would have crossed the street and came back to the car.

I thought that there is a grace period of 5 or 10 minutes when you park. Was I wrong?

Europa1

10,923 posts

218 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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You were wrong.

Amused2death

2,526 posts

226 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Any "grace period" usually relates to staying beyond a ticket's expiry time before a ticket is issued.

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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For info: "Stationary idling is an offence under section 42 of the Road Traffic Act 1988."

The Act enforces rule 123 of the Highway Code which states: "You must not leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road."

Doing this can incur a £20 fixed-penalty fine under the Road Traffic (Vehicle Emissions) Regulations 2002. This goes up to £40 if unpaid within a given timeframe.

55palfers

6,381 posts

194 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Riley Blue said:
For info: "Stationary idling is an offence under section 42 of the Road Traffic Act 1988."

The Act enforces rule 123 of the Highway Code which states: "You must not leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road."

Doing this can incur a £20 fixed-penalty fine under the Road Traffic (Vehicle Emissions) Regulations 2002. This goes up to £40 if unpaid within a given timeframe.
Who defines "unnecessarily"?

In the winter you want the heater on, in summer the aircon.


sorin1987

Original Poster:

155 posts

141 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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55palfers said:
Who defines "unnecessarily"?

In the winter you want the heater on, in summer the aircon.
That is exactly why I left the engine running. I just left home and the car hadn't time to warm up and I left my wife in the car.

Ransoman

884 posts

120 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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The grace period is to allow you time to buy the ticket.

herewego

8,814 posts

243 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Some authorities give 5 mins. others nothing. Should say on the relevant council website. You were just unlucky there was a warden on site at the time.

Shaw Tarse

31,897 posts

233 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Why couldn't the wife buy the ticket?

Aretnap

1,971 posts

181 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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55palfers said:
Who defines "unnecessarily"?
Ultimately a court - presumably using the test of whether a "reasonable person" would regard it as necessary.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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sorin1987 said:
55palfers said:
Who defines "unnecessarily"?

In the winter you want the heater on, in summer the aircon.
That is exactly why I left the engine running. I just left home and the car hadn't time to warm up and I left my wife in the car.

And? I see nothing there to even remotely suggest it was necessary.

If you'd just left home why didn't you just walk there in the first place?


Dagnir

2,116 posts

193 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Get your wife to drive up the road and back?

S11Steve

6,389 posts

214 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Was it a private parking ticket or local council?

RizzoTheRat

28,998 posts

222 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Tell the traffic warden you're nipping in to the shop to buy a mars bar so you've got change for the ticket machine.

Durzel

12,999 posts

198 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Dagnir said:
Get your wife to drive up the road and back?
This.

covboy

2,593 posts

204 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Send your wife for the ticket while you go in the shop then meet her back at the car where she tells you she hadn't the right change for the ticket - get what I mean ?

S11Steve

6,389 posts

214 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Ransoman said:
The grace period is to allow you time to buy the ticket.
That's only for private parking tickets, and is written into the non-regulatory code of practice from the two Trade associations. In reality it is ignored as there are no consequences for non-compliance.

For local authority tickets, the 2015 Deregulation Act allowed a 10 minute grace period at the end of any paid parking period, but does not cover double yellows or permit zones.

Bristol spark

4,509 posts

213 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Send the wife into the shop, you stay in the car...

paulwirral

3,828 posts

165 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Bristol spark said:
Send the wife into the shop, you stay in the car...
Get wife to drop you off at the pub then send her to the shops to do the shopping for you is surely the only correct answer ?

Mandalore

5,457 posts

143 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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I can't think of anyone who would think it correct the do what you did.