not enjoying my new job -should i mention this role in my cv
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Hi, I started new job about two months ago but things are moving very slow. My all team mates are in USA including line manager and i am not getting any work to do.
I am working for a very big company , pay and benefits are really good but as we all know money can't make you happy. In the office it feels like i am wondering around as i don't have any team mate here plus there is no employee and manager relation.
I have already discussed this my line manager about my situation and he has asked other team mates to give me some work but everyone is busy.
I have been thinking about applying for a new role but don't know if i should mention this role in my cv?
I am working for a very big company , pay and benefits are really good but as we all know money can't make you happy. In the office it feels like i am wondering around as i don't have any team mate here plus there is no employee and manager relation.
I have already discussed this my line manager about my situation and he has asked other team mates to give me some work but everyone is busy.
I have been thinking about applying for a new role but don't know if i should mention this role in my cv?
I have 9 separate country locations with a similar set up. Teams are globally dispersed and it is common to have few or no members of the same functional team in your office. In one country there are in fact only 2 people and in another there is no physical office and the small handful there are remote home workers. Within my Europe region it is actually quite rare to have your reporting line manager in the same country as you let alone the same office. This type of working arrangement will certainly increase as more organisations adopt the right technology and the technology itself develops. It does present an HR and management challenge.
The work in itself can be interesting and challenging but if you feel isolated then that can be no consolation. I work hard to ensure a good team office environment where those in the office feel part of a team or unit rather and this can make up for not having swathes of functional team members present.
I guess lesson learnt that next time round you need to ask about the working office, practice and culture. It is easy to take for granted as most of us have spent most if not all our working lives in a traditional set-up.
The work in itself can be interesting and challenging but if you feel isolated then that can be no consolation. I work hard to ensure a good team office environment where those in the office feel part of a team or unit rather and this can make up for not having swathes of functional team members present.
I guess lesson learnt that next time round you need to ask about the working office, practice and culture. It is easy to take for granted as most of us have spent most if not all our working lives in a traditional set-up.
edc said:
I have 9 separate country locations with a similar set up. Teams are globally dispersed and it is common to have few or no members of the same functional team in your office. In one country there are in fact only 2 people and in another there is no physical office and the small handful there are remote home workers. Within my Europe region it is actually quite rare to have your reporting line manager in the same country as you let alone the same office. This type of working arrangement will certainly increase as more organisations adopt the right technology and the technology itself develops. It does present an HR and management challenge.
The work in itself can be interesting and challenging but if you feel isolated then that can be no consolation. I work hard to ensure a good team office environment where those in the office feel part of a team or unit rather and this can make up for not having swathes of functional team members present.
I guess lesson learnt that next time round you need to ask about the working office, practice and culture. It is easy to take for granted as most of us have spent most if not all our working lives in a traditional set-up.
May be i am noticing office environment more because i don't have much to work on. The work in itself can be interesting and challenging but if you feel isolated then that can be no consolation. I work hard to ensure a good team office environment where those in the office feel part of a team or unit rather and this can make up for not having swathes of functional team members present.
I guess lesson learnt that next time round you need to ask about the working office, practice and culture. It is easy to take for granted as most of us have spent most if not all our working lives in a traditional set-up.
I was told before the offer that i will fly to USA and work with other team members and see how they work. I think they have forgotten about it but i don't mind if someone is willing to go through the system with me remotely. Here everyone is busy and i have to ask for help , it is different when you are talking to someone face to face, at least you know whether you are really bothering this person or not.
To me it feels like i have moved from development role to basic bug fixing job.
Overall company is well organized and they have proper agile environment, we have daily scrum meetings over the phone. The other day we had a full day session with Microsoft team on improving our architecture and how we can take a advantage of newer technologies. We all have msdn subscription.
I was sent on two weeks training which was specifically designed for franchisees but my line manager asked me if i am willing to attend this as this may give me a general overview of business model.
I don't feel like going to work when i get up in the morning. I have been working from home few days a week.
I have had very good relations with my line managers, i was able to talk to them face to face and we had discussions on everything. I am not saying my current line manager is not good, he seems to be a nice person but he is very very busy , running 4-5 different teams.
Edited by alec1975 on Friday 24th February 11:12
Edited by alec1975 on Friday 24th February 11:17
alec1975 said:
No.
There are many other guys in the office working for other teams.
I have worked in a similar environment before. You may or may not have been told this already but I was expected to travel to meet all of my team mates and counterparts during my probation period as many times as possible and learn the job from them. I was based in Aberdeen and regularly went to london, Newcastle, Glasgow and Leeds at least once every 2 weeks. Not that it amounted to anything as I was made redundant 7 months in (Banking industry, the company had just been fined in the aftermath of the credit crunch and they let a bunch of staff go to protect there bonus', and no I am not joking).There are many other guys in the office working for other teams.
alec1975 said:
ATG said:
What kind of work?
Software DevelopmentI'd be politely and constructively getting in his face every day until he gets his act together.
Do you guys have daily team meetings to discuss what people are doing, share ideas, ensure everyone's pulling in the same direction?
ATG said:
Jesus wept. And your boss can't even get you pairing or code reviewing any of your team mate's work?
I'd be politely and constructively getting in his face every day until he gets his act together.
Do you guys have daily team meetings to discuss what people are doing, share ideas, ensure everyone's pulling in the same direction?
I have got access to all code and databases, i was told that i will have few sessions on code reviewing with other guys (who are doing it at the moment) but they seem to be very busy had canceled appointments 3 times. I'd be politely and constructively getting in his face every day until he gets his act together.
Do you guys have daily team meetings to discuss what people are doing, share ideas, ensure everyone's pulling in the same direction?
We do have daily scrum meetings and i simply tell them that i don't have anything in my block. Everything is on TFS and i can what other guys are working on.
I was hired to fix UK issues and two guys in USA suppose to hand over UK stuff to me but there is no progress on this so far.
Last week i got fed up and email my line manager asking him to assign some task to me , this way i can pick up the current product quickly. Later he asked other guy to show me the process of fixing database issues. I am going to wait few more weeks and see if situation gets better.
Edited by alec1975 on Friday 24th February 14:27
SystemParanoia said:
Seems like you needs to be a bit more proactive and dare i say it, annoying until you force the hand of someone to bring you up to speed.
It is up to product owner to assign me tasks , i can't do anything until something has assigned to me. I am working at senior level and don't expect anyone to spoon feed me , i am new to quite a few technologies here and just learning them through online resources while i am sitting doing nothing.In my previous role i was in charge of whole system and was working on complete development life cycle.
Edited by alec1975 on Friday 24th February 14:32
Edited by alec1975 on Friday 24th February 14:34
Cant you plow loads of time into learning the tech stack they are using and then just start spying on existing documentation + reading current tickets they are working on?
You dont have to explicitly do anything but you can often learn a few things by piecing together the puzzles...
Surely if youre in planning meetings + scrums the product owner / projext manager / scrum master would love to get their hands on your resource, even if its going to take you 3x as long to do things to begin with.
You dont have to explicitly do anything but you can often learn a few things by piecing together the puzzles...
Surely if youre in planning meetings + scrums the product owner / projext manager / scrum master would love to get their hands on your resource, even if its going to take you 3x as long to do things to begin with.
cat with a hat said:
Surely if youre in planning meetings + scrums the product owner / projext manager / scrum master would love to get their hands on your resource, even if its going to take you 3x as long to do things to begin with.
Can't wait for this to happen. cat with a hat said:
Cant you plow loads of time into learning the tech stack they are using and then just start spying on existing documentation + reading current tickets they are working on?
Already going through pluralsight courses.SystemParanoia said:
The #Codenewbie podcast suggests that writing up documentation for existing code/projects is also a good way to get familiar with whats happening, and really helps everyone else who would probably never have gotten round to doing it.
This... guarantee that if they are that busy, they will not have good documentation.I worked in London and my team was in Ireland, saw the team twice in 2 years.
.Net/MVC/SQL dev.... was pure bliss, Now Im technical BA working on Big Data and I havent touched code in a year, the grass is not always greener and enjoy the training and stuff.
You cant have done all the pluralsight courses?
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