Cars at night with headlights on.

Cars at night with headlights on.

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sstein

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255 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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Hi,

I've got a picture of an EVO at night on the JCMR a couple of years ago. It was taken at night with a simple point and click camera and the headlights in the photo have came out coming out the front of the car.

Anyone know why this is, for some reason I think that if I was getting this effect it would have been from the back of the car, not in front of the car?

Cheers

Stuart

docevi1

10,430 posts

249 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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flash was used.

I once queried how on earth that effect can be obtained as to me it seemed photoshopped, however what happens is the still image is captured using flash, but then the shutter stays open. As the car drives past it leaves a light trail from the main beams...

sstein

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Saturday 26th March 2005
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Thanks for that,

It had me a bit confused. Granted though I am a bit useless with cameras and it was taken with a point and click jobbie.

So would u turn the flash off if shooting a moving car at night? or use a different flash setting?

Cheers

Stuart

sstein

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Saturday 26th March 2005
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Said photo.



Cheers

Stuart

docevi1

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Saturday 26th March 2005
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as in what to do to avoid getting the blurred lights? Lower the shutter speed (or take it off night time shots). On the compacts what you get is the camera will flash to expose the foreground and then leave the shutter open for a short while to expose the background correctly.

In this case the flash exposes the foreground very nicely (the car) and then stays open allowing for the "weird" light patterns out the front.

Unless you have different modes/control over the camera there isn't much you can do with a compact. On my A70 you can do everything manually which is a help.

sstein

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Saturday 26th March 2005
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Yeah the compact has a lack of features, but I was given a D70 as an xmas pressie so im learning (slowly )

Cheers

Stuart

docevi1

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Saturday 26th March 2005
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nice!

I'm not sure of the functionality of the SLR's to be honest (I'm still waiting to afford a dSLR or better camera than my Canon A70) but I'd presume you can do pre-expose then flash on the D70 that way you'd have light trails and then a solid car, or simply put the flash on and take a "normal" picture.

agent006

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265 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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sstein said:
Yeah the compact has a lack of features, but I was given a D70 as an xmas pressie so im learning (slowly )

Cheers

Stuart


D70 should let you set the flash to go at the end of the exposure.

sstein

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Saturday 26th March 2005
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Quick check of manual, and it looks like to set the flash at end of exposure you use Rear Curtain Sync.

To quote manual:

"flash fires just before shutter closes, creating effect of stream of light following moving objects"

So i would presume that the effect of lights in front of the car would be Front curtain sync, this must be how the compact works.

Cheers

Stuart

simpo two

85,558 posts

266 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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sstein said:
So i would presume that the effect of lights in front of the car would be Front curtain sync, this must be how the compact works.

Yep, that's what normally happens. On the D70 and some other SLRs you can set the flash to 'rear curtain synch' which means the flash goes off at the end of the exposure (so the get the car at the front of the light trails and not the back.

The only way to lose the trails completely is to use high speed synch: luckily for you the D70 has a very high synch of 1/500th sec. So use shutter speed priority, set it to 1/500th and let the flash do the full exposure. However, firing this at rally drivers after dark might not be too smart?

If you're using a SB-800 set it to TTL mode, not TTL-BL.

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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If you can fire your flash manually things can get interesting.

I have a unit with a manual fire button which I can use off camera. So, night time rally shots you can set a long exposure (on my 35mm SLR's I can hold the shutter open with a remote release cable should I choose) and then take the shot and fire the flash when you think it might produce interesting results.

Best using a tripod of course - you run out of hands otherwise!

If the flash unit is powerful enough you can get tail light trails and still enough exposure to pick up the vehicle as it moves away - all without blinding the driver.

On the other hand if they have all the lights on anyway it would take one hell of a flash (from a distance) to offset the main beams - and of course people are getting used to flashes these days.