Previous battery issues sorted (sort of)
Previous battery issues sorted (sort of)
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scotty2dogs

Original Poster:

115 posts

306 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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Battery was dead,wouldn't accept a charge,wouldn't jump problem solved by attaching the jump leads to wifes Ka and leaving the ?Ka running for 20 mins to get some juice into my Tuscan--started eventually but now need to replace the battery- I have a part number 086 from the Lucas battery catalogue and a different number 096 from another battery book--whats the correct one? The make is Filam ??

bigphil

214 posts

260 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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battery is FIAMM part no. 100FS.
Most important if you use an alternative it must be 680 CCC (cold cranking amps).

scotty2dogs

Original Poster:

115 posts

306 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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cheers bigphil - the lack of information/duff information in the battery manufacturers catalogues is unbelievable , I've had three different battery suppliers either unable to find the part or offer me the wrong one (like the one in the boot thats now going back tomorrow!!)

scotty2dogs

Original Poster:

115 posts

306 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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Does the year of build make a difference?

bigphil

214 posts

260 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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No the year is not important, should cost no more than £60.

scotty2dogs

Original Poster:

115 posts

306 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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FIAMM 100FS was NOT the correct battery for my Tuscan--the +/- was at different ends and didn't even fit into the tray. A different garage had to order and fit the new battery and now a new problem--8.8volts warning!!!!! Perhaps it wasn't the battery after all--any other ideas?

bigphil

214 posts

260 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Thats really weird as that is what is in mine and at least three others that friends have,did not mean to mislead in any way.

scotty2dogs

Original Poster:

115 posts

306 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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no worries bigphil - I'm not even sure what finally went in as I had to leave it at a local garage while I went to work!!
Any ideas about the low voltage warning though??

basil brush

5,522 posts

286 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Similar thing happening with mine. During the service a couple of weeks ago the dealer tested the battery and said it was goosed (even though, as I pointed out, it had only been on car about 9 months) and charged me for fitting a new one. Voltage reading on dash has been fluctuating since, but this morning got down to 12.2 volts with nothing turned on. It keeps jumping back up to 13.3 for a bit and then dropping off again. I'm guessing the alt may be on the way out but I'm going to recheck earth point and wiring again tonight.

powerlord

771 posts

264 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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basil brush said:
Similar thing happening with mine. During the service a couple of weeks ago the dealer tested the battery and said it was goosed (even though, as I pointed out, it had only been on car about 9 months) and charged me for fitting a new one. Voltage reading on dash has been fluctuating since, but this morning got down to 12.2 volts with nothing turned on. It keeps jumping back up to 13.3 for a bit and then dropping off again. I'm guessing the alt may be on the way out but I'm going to recheck earth point and wiring again tonight.


I'm having similar fun and games. Power fitted a new battery when it beast was getting it's rebuild there, saying the old battery was gubbed. But it too was only 9 months old.

My volt readout is always ok 12.9-13.5v.. but now when it's sitting with the accumate connected, the accumate finishes charging and says the battery is weak.



stu

basil brush

5,522 posts

286 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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I think 12.9 to 13.5 is too low really though. I'd have thought we should be seeing 13.5 to 13.9 depending what is running, and certainly not less than 13. Having checked with a voltmeter last night I know the dash is accurate.

I'm going to give Gorners a ring and see what they think. Don't want to think how much an alt will be.

basil brush

5,522 posts

286 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Just spoken to Gorners. Next suspect is the fused link between the alt and the starter motor. I'm going to try and have a look tonight and will report back.

basil brush

5,522 posts

286 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Success. It was the 100 amp fuse. One of the connections was actually loose and about to fall off. I'm more than a bit p*ssed off that this wasn't spotted during the service 2 weeks ago, when they fitted a new alt drive belt which is about 3 inches away. I'm also annoyed that I've paid for a new battery when it was a charging problem, not a failing battery.

Ah well, at least it's charging again with the dash now showing 13.7 volts. And I've fastened the bonnet on properly, which it wasn't before.

...must have main dealer service history, hmmmm

bigphil

214 posts

260 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Mine also suffered after changing battery found it to be corroded earth lead, replaced and back to normal.

J_S_G

6,177 posts

273 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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basil brush said:
Success. It was the 100 amp fuse. One of the connections was actually loose and about to fall off. I'm more than a bit p*ssed off that this wasn't spotted during the service 2 weeks ago, when they fitted a new alt drive belt which is about 3 inches away. I'm also annoyed that I've paid for a new battery when it was a charging problem, not a failing battery.

Ah well, at least it's charging again with the dash now showing 13.7 volts. And I've fastened the bonnet on properly, which it wasn't before.

...must have main dealer service history, hmmmm


Very surprised that wasn't picked up on... 100A fuse going and the associated battery gremlins from the alternator not charging it right is possibly THE most common problem on the Cerb. Would've though dealers would've thought laterally, put two and two together, and checked forthe same kind of problem on a Tusc...

powerlord

771 posts

264 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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so where's this 100 amp fuse then ? might as well check mine.

though last night the accumate finally showed charged and ready (not weak).

J_S_G

6,177 posts

273 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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powerlord said:
so where's this 100 amp fuse then ? might as well check mine.

though last night the accumate finally showed charged and ready (not weak).

I could tell you in great detail on a Cerb. No idea on the Tuscan, as I never had that problem...

basil brush

5,522 posts

286 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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powerlord said:
so where's this 100 amp fuse then ? might as well check mine.

though last night the accumate finally showed charged and ready (not weak).


It's under the airbox, attached to a plate on the back of the starter motor. Took me just over an hour last night in the middle of a thunder storm, including taking it off and cleaning it all up. Volts are back up between 13.6 and 14 so hopefully all ok.

basil brush

5,522 posts

286 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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J_S_G said:

Very surprised that wasn't picked up on... 100A fuse going and the associated battery gremlins from the alternator not charging it right is possibly THE most common problem on the Cerb. Would've though dealers would've thought laterally, put two and two together, and checked forthe same kind of problem on a Tusc...


Me too. especially as you could tell it was not right as soon as you looked at it. Ah well.

powerlord

771 posts

264 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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basil brush said:

powerlord said:
so where's this 100 amp fuse then ? might as well check mine.

though last night the accumate finally showed charged and ready (not weak).



It's under the airbox, attached to a plate on the back of the starter motor. Took me just over an hour last night in the middle of a thunder storm, including taking it off and cleaning it all up. Volts are back up between 13.6 and 14 so hopefully all ok.

ah. feck that then. I thought it was easily accessable. had the bonnet off a few times. Not something I want to do again if I can avoid it. I'll have it checked at the 1000 mile service.

ta.

stu