Question for DVD, Motor Offences
Discussion
Hi DVD!! Have been pointed in your general direction by:............er.......well.......MMmmh! well, er "im!"
Serious question though and of interest to us all: I once worked with an Expol named "Jack", (Bobby Jack) he used to tell me (yrs ago) that there were 2000 offences that could be applied against the motorist. Is this true? If so, What are they and where can we find them? Is it more now? (I'm talking 20 yrs ago)Can you list them? (take your time)
That should take you 6 months! or can you point us in a direction in which to find them listed?
Ta! DVD, Dave
Serious question though and of interest to us all: I once worked with an Expol named "Jack", (Bobby Jack) he used to tell me (yrs ago) that there were 2000 offences that could be applied against the motorist. Is this true? If so, What are they and where can we find them? Is it more now? (I'm talking 20 yrs ago)Can you list them? (take your time)
That should take you 6 months! or can you point us in a direction in which to find them listed? Ta! DVD, Dave
Go to your local library and ask for a copy of a book called Wilkinsons Road Traffic law (the current edition 
). It is very thick (several inches)!
If you start at the first page and count the offences, by the time you get to the back you will know how many there are. The problem is, by the time you have counted all of them, there are bound to be a couple of new ones added to it
!
). It is very thick (several inches)! If you start at the first page and count the offences, by the time you get to the back you will know how many there are. The problem is, by the time you have counted all of them, there are bound to be a couple of new ones added to it
! 
). Dave
When I first became a BiB there were a few Acts, i.e. Road Traffic Act, M.Vehicle(Con and Use), Vehicles (Excise) Act, Vehicle Registration Act and basically that was all you required. Even then it was posssible to stop a vehicle and go through it and come up with something.
Now they are churning out Legislation like a sausage machine so that nearly every area involving a motor vehicle firstly has an EEC Directive as how and why
and requiring a member state to adopt as law. As you say there are apparently a hugh number of offences, some grave,some trivial that can be used against Mr Driver and his vehicle.
What gets my goat is that they pass an Act, they then pass an amendment under a Statutory Instument or implant a bit more information in another Act, referring back to the original Act so that when you research an item its like doing a Chinese jigsaw and at the end of the day never sure you have the whole picture.
Take speeding. You have the Road Traffic Regulation Act under which an Order is made in relation to the limit followed by the Road Traffic Act which mentions the NOIP/172 and which states that the Road Traffic Offenders Act applies in relation to NOIP and also sentence. Back to the Road Traffic act for possible mitigation in relation to endorsements/disqualification. Bit like the weeegeee bird that lives on the peaks of a mountain. One leg is markedly shorter than the other so that when it reaches a plain it walks around in ever decreasing circles until it finally disappears up its own R'sole.
So - don't be so critical of poor old Bib when sometimes he gets it wrong. Lawyers can sit at a desk with all the time in the world surrounded by law books and Acts but poor old Bib, up to his backside in alligators, has to try and carry all this around in his head.
DVD
When I first became a BiB there were a few Acts, i.e. Road Traffic Act, M.Vehicle(Con and Use), Vehicles (Excise) Act, Vehicle Registration Act and basically that was all you required. Even then it was posssible to stop a vehicle and go through it and come up with something.
Now they are churning out Legislation like a sausage machine so that nearly every area involving a motor vehicle firstly has an EEC Directive as how and why
and requiring a member state to adopt as law. As you say there are apparently a hugh number of offences, some grave,some trivial that can be used against Mr Driver and his vehicle.
What gets my goat is that they pass an Act, they then pass an amendment under a Statutory Instument or implant a bit more information in another Act, referring back to the original Act so that when you research an item its like doing a Chinese jigsaw and at the end of the day never sure you have the whole picture.
Take speeding. You have the Road Traffic Regulation Act under which an Order is made in relation to the limit followed by the Road Traffic Act which mentions the NOIP/172 and which states that the Road Traffic Offenders Act applies in relation to NOIP and also sentence. Back to the Road Traffic act for possible mitigation in relation to endorsements/disqualification. Bit like the weeegeee bird that lives on the peaks of a mountain. One leg is markedly shorter than the other so that when it reaches a plain it walks around in ever decreasing circles until it finally disappears up its own R'sole.
So - don't be so critical of poor old Bib when sometimes he gets it wrong. Lawyers can sit at a desk with all the time in the world surrounded by law books and Acts but poor old Bib, up to his backside in alligators, has to try and carry all this around in his head.
DVD
Dwight VanDriver said:
Bit like the weeegeee bird that lives on the peaks of a mountain. One leg is markedly shorter than the other so that when it reaches a plain it walks around in ever decreasing circles until it finally disappears up its own R'sole.
DVD - I fear you may be confusing the Oozaling (also known as the 'Clang', 'Oozala' and 'Galooli') Bird and the Haggis.
The Oozaling Bird flies round and round in ever-decreasing circles, finally disappearing up its own fundamental orifice.
Whereas, the Haggis has one set of legs (usually those on the right, but some differences have been noted by Haggis Beaters) shorter than the other. It runs around the Scottish bens in a clockwise direction. Come early January, the Haggis Beaters venture out onto the snowy hillsides and beat around anti-clockwise. The Haggis - being naturally rather timid - is alarmed by this activity and runs away. As a consquence of Naturer's perversity when it comes to the portioning of legs, it falls over and rolls down into the loch at the foot of the ben, and is collected by the beaters' sons using modified Nessie nets.
It is prepared for eating by cutting off its legs, head and tail and is then boiled in Scotch whisky. Oddly, every Haggis has a sell-by date of 25 January.
On a point of protocol, the Haggis can only be eaten to the skirl of the pipes.
Streaky
>> Edited by streaky on Sunday 27th March 21:28
Thanks all, and Gone, for the advice on the book. I'll have to have a wander into the Ref. section next time I visit the library, just out of interest. It's an amazing fact though if it's true, I can't think of any other thing in life that is more regulated.
Oh! and take a look at: www.haggishunt.com
and click on "Haggisclopedia"
>> Edited by 8Pack on Monday 28th March 00:57
Oh! and take a look at: www.haggishunt.com
and click on "Haggisclopedia" >> Edited by 8Pack on Monday 28th March 00:57
- Streaky8Pack said:A foul canard, put about by Haggis lovers (and you can take that in ANY way you wish
Oh! and take a look at: <a href="http://www.haggishunt.com">www.haggishunt.com</a>
) to confuse Sassanachs and to dissuade them from joining the hunt for the Haggis. Haggis (note that, as with 'sheep', the plural is unchanged from the singular) were not included in the Protection of Wild Mammals (Scotland) Act 2002. The local beaters rely greatly upon the income generated by the official hunt in early January and - owing to an oversight on the part of the drafters - the Act did not stipulate a hunting season. Beaters are deeply concerned that hunters from the South and from America will take advantage of this and wipe out the Haggis and with it a tradition that dates back some 200 years. Streaky
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