RE: M@H's Land Rover Series 2A

RE: M@H's Land Rover Series 2A

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Bodo

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12,381 posts

267 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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A great piece of British motoring;
one of the most genuine cars of it class!

Alloy body, metal dash board, sliding windows and
three different styles of fully interchangeable roofs
make this car a joy for every owner!
Though, running costs are low enough to use it daily or to
make it affordable for low budget PHers. Later, when upgrading
the carpark into something sporty, it'll make a good winter vehicle
or garden stuff transporter, allowing to choose a sportscar without caring for practicability.



Nice one, M@H!

Bodo

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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How the Hell did you manage to buy yours for £75 though Bodo ??

Bodo

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12,381 posts

267 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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M@H,
actually 75quid was the cheapest of the three donor vehicles for that restoration;
however most of the parts came from it, and it has the 75ers spec.: tropical roof
and steel blue body color
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How the Hell did you manage to buy yours for £75 though Bodo ??


Oh, and loads of German beer went into that deal

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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Well played

you won't buy a Series 2 (worth buying) over here for much under £1000 these days.. and at that money they're still pretty knackered..

Cheers
Matt.

Bodo

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12,381 posts

267 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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Well played

you won't buy a Series 2 (worth buying) over here for much under £1000 these days.. and at that money they're still pretty knackered..

Cheers
Matt.




Well, I bought it in the UK, four years ago! (Hence the value of the beer); but it was well knackered, so I had to put it together with two other Landrovers; one Hungarian and one Swiss - so it's pretty multi-cultural

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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Arent they great... just unbolt them.. then bolt them together again with different bits..

..its Metal Meccanno for grownups

Matt.

mhibbins

14,055 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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Arent they great... just unbolt them.. then bolt them together again with different bits..
Not if you actually want to use them, no. I bought my lightweight to run while I was fixing the gearbox in my s3... in the end I spent so much time fixing stupid little problems with the lr that I eventually sold the bloody thing just so I had time to *start* doing the tvr .

Mark

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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um well ok.. but the mistake I spotted was "I bought my lightweight. " for some reason I tend to braket these in with Series 3's on the desireability stakes..

Cheers,
Matt.

mhibbins

14,055 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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Isn't a lightweight was basically the same as series 2A?

It's a shame mine was so much of a pain in the *rse as when it was working ok it was a lot of fun although pretty slow and bloody noisy.

The things that went wrong on it were stupid stuff like carbs blocking with cr*p in the tank, intake manifolds leaking, exhausts leaking, lights intermittently failing, clutch failure... nothing which made it a cr*p car but plenty to keep me busy when I was supposed to be fixing the tvr

Mark

Bodo

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12,381 posts

267 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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Isn't a lightweight was basically the same as series 2A?



Depends: there are IIa and III Lightweights.

Actually the Lt/Wt is 75kgs heavier than the regular LR

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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I think there were lots that were basically a 2A yes (but 6" narrower and 250 lbs lighter). However they weren't in production release until 1968 (to the Royal Marines)and the standard series 3 production started in 1971 (I think?) therefore there must be an awful lot of series 3 lightweights compared to 2A lightweights..?

Cheers
Matt.

mhibbins

14,055 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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I suspect they are a lot like tvrs in that there is no such thing as a standard one any more. Mine had the earlier 3 bearing engine but the later synchro gearbox. Mind you, it also had A-Team wheels and tyres, a hard top and (I think) capri seats...

www.cwork.nildram.co.uk/mark/cars/landrover/index.html

...gripped!

Damn, looking at the pictures, I wish I'd kept it. The bloke who bought it just caught me taking the for sale sign off the window (got a contract after 6 months out of work) and offered me more than I paid for it even though it needed a new clutch (which I told him about)... he caught me at a low as Norwich had just lost on penalties () and off it went.

Mark

>> Edited by mhibbins on Tuesday 3rd September 15:52

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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Very nice looking Mark... I especialy like the chequerplate wings..

on a '73 plate and with those wing-mirrors (if original) I would guess yours was based on a Series 3.. as for the engine.. who knows, maybe it was swapped out for an earlier one at some stage..

you'll be up for another one by now then ??

Cheers
Matt.

PS you're in my Bad books.. you've had the last pair of SS Exhaust Downpipes from Peninsula, they're currently out of stock.. !

mhibbins

14,055 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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Very nice looking Mark... I especialy like the chequerplate wings..
Easy to do, just cut to shape, drill and pop-rivet.
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on a '73 plate and with those wing-mirrors (if original) I would guess yours was based on a Series 3.. as for the engine.. who knows, maybe it was swapped out for an earlier one at some stage..
The wing mirrors were off a defender I believe. The origins of the engine were unknown as was the mileage but it ran extremely well (occasionaly). It was built early 73 according to the mod.
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you'll be up for another one by now then ??
Hmmm. I am actually looking for an everyday car for the winter as I'm not commuting through the winter on the fireblade again and the s3 is making way for a westfield (or similar). However, I'm currently commuting from Newbury to Southampton and I really can't face sitting in a 'series' for over an hour at 55mph slowly going deaf and getting frost-bite
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PS you're in my Bad books.. you've had the last pair of SS Exhaust Downpipes from Peninsula, they're currently out of stock.. !

Doh. They were out of stock when I phoned them up too, the two I had were made for me and posted when ready. Hope you get some soon. Fitting them was a nightmare... my advice when doing it is to fit them to the rest of the exhaust, support the exhaust loosely on its mounts and then try and force the downpipes into the manifolds with a jack lifting the downpipes and a piece of wood against the manifold being 'pushed' outwards by a large hammer. I tried to fit the downpipes to the manifolds first but couldn't slide the exhaust on to the downpipes for some reason, just wouldn't go. Whatever you do don't forget to get Pen. to send you 4 new clamps... believe me you *will* be p*ssed off when you've finally got the exhaust together and one of your rusty old clamps breaks and you have to go and find one the right size while your assembly paste dries.

Good luck

Mark

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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PS you're in my Bad books.. you've had the last pair of SS Exhaust Downpipes from Peninsula, they're currently out of stock.. !

Doh. They were out of stock when I phoned them up too, the two I had were made for me and posted when ready. Hope you get some soon. Fitting them was a nightmare... my advice when doing it is to fit them to the rest of the exhaust, support the exhaust loosely on its mounts and then try and force the downpipes into the manifolds with a jack lifting the downpipes and a piece of wood against the manifold being 'pushed' outwards by a large hammer. I tried to fit the downpipes to the manifolds first but couldn't slide the exhaust on to the downpipes for some reason, just wouldn't go. Whatever you do don't forget to get Pen. to send you 4 new clamps... believe me you *will* be p*ssed off when you've finally got the exhaust together and one of your rusty old clamps breaks and you have to go and find one the right size while your assembly paste dries.

Good luck

Mark



Ok thanks I'll give all that a go.. fortunately I had the exhaust off the other month so its not too seized up.. bought some new clips at the time. But you're right the old ones were in a bit of a state and I broke 2 of them removing them. D'oh.

so you're going to Sell your S3..! I remember looking into buying it when I bought mine.. I was in the process of making an appointment with AB to see it when it sold.. (even more in my bad books LOL )


Cheers
Matt.


>> Edited by M@H on Tuesday 3rd September 16:26

JSG

2,238 posts

284 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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All proper Landies are top motors, Series III are ok as long as you check the usual places - just a IIA with a bit more refinement.

mhibbins

14,055 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2002
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so you're going to Sell your S3..! I remember looking into buying it when I bought mine.. I was in the process of making an appointment with AB to see it when it sold.. (even more in my bad books LOL )
At least you got out of having to remove/recon/refit the gearbox, a process that I'm hopefully coming to the end of soon

Mark

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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All proper Landies are top motors, Series III are ok as long as you check the usual places - just a IIA with a bit more refinement.



You're joking arent you.... didn't you mean "just a IIA with a different Chassis, manufactured to a lower grade by someone else." ?

Cheers
Matt.

JSG

2,238 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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You're joking arent you.... didn't you mean "just a IIA with a different Chassis, manufactured to a lower grade by someone else." ?


No, I'm reffering to the improvements in heating, brakes, fully syncro gearbox, instrument layout etc that were made, as to the BL manufacturing issues then as I said you need to make all the usual checks.

Oh, and I know you couldn't BBQ on the Series III grill.

Cheers,
John.

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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LOL... good points all... especially the grill.. I think the plastic SIII one would make a bit of a mess of your bangers...

Matt.