Industrial unit for personal use
Industrial unit for personal use
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crofty1984

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17,064 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Hello,
I'm not a business and an a PAYE worker.
My house has a teeny garage and this year I'm considering buying a nearby industrial unit to use as garage/workshop space.
I WOULD NOT RUN A BUSINESS FROM IT.
Would I have to pay business rates on it. The current owner just uses it to store their st, so I'd hope that was OK.

fat80b

3,252 posts

251 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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crofty1984 said:
Hello,
I'm not a business and an a PAYE worker.
My house has a teeny garage and this year I'm considering buying a nearby industrial unit to use as garage/workshop space.
I WOULD NOT RUN A BUSINESS FROM IT.
Would I have to pay business rates on it. The current owner just uses it to store their st, so I'd hope that was OK.
Unfortunately you will as they are not actually called Business rates - they are non-domestic rates. i.e. rates for non domestic use which unfortunately includes storing stuff.

I am looking to do the same but struggling to find a suitable unit near me - Cambridge.

There are some exemptions to non domestic rates but in all likelihood, you will have to pay them. In which case, read carefully the rateable value stuff to work out what might be due on a place of a given size/rate.

Bob

LivingTheDream

1,768 posts

209 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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I've done something similar for the last few years - I used to run a business from a unit but when that ended I used it to store my general st

So yes, I paid business rates (non domestic, sorry) but you need to figure out the value compared to other options. I leased the unit and I've just decided not to renew, then the rates bill came though for 2017-2018, the new re rated rates that is...

They've re rated it, then applied a small business rates relief and the net to pay.... zero

Bit annoying in a way but hey ho.

Also look out for utilities - they seem to like to charge commercial spaces entirely differently to domestic.
Also, check out service charges etc for the estate.

Lynch91

525 posts

169 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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LivingTheDream said:
I've done something similar for the last few years - I used to run a business from a unit but when that ended I used it to store my general st

So yes, I paid business rates (non domestic, sorry) but you need to figure out the value compared to other options. I leased the unit and I've just decided not to renew, then the rates bill came though for 2017-2018, the new re rated rates that is...

They've re rated it, then applied a small business rates relief and the net to pay.... zero

Bit annoying in a way but hey ho.

Also look out for utilities - they seem to like to charge commercial spaces entirely differently to domestic.
Also, check out service charges etc for the estate.
This, I would imagine depending on the size and therefore value of the unit, that you would be eligible for small business rates relief.

https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-business-rate-relief/...

Chrisgr31

14,290 posts

285 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Yes you would need to pay business rates but the chances are you'd qualify for 100% relief as already mentioned.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

269 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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do you have any farms near you ? they often have outbuildings that are available to rent.

crofty1984

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17,064 posts

234 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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jas xjr said:
do you have any farms near you ? they often have outbuildings that are available to rent.
That's something I was looking at if this fell through. Definitely a good idea. I was thinking if I could get it cheap enough that the mortgage wasn't an enormous amount more than to rent a garage I'd have done that.
I'll look into that relief though as well.

Chrisgr31

14,290 posts

285 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Be careful of farm units, in my experience the rents can be very high, and dont forget that they will still be subject to business rates if the VO finds out about them.

Farm units tend to be let at £x per week, ensure you work out what that is on a sq ft per annum basis so it can be compared with other units

Wombat3

15,094 posts

236 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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crofty1984 said:
Hello,
I'm not a business and an a PAYE worker.
My house has a teeny garage and this year I'm considering buying a nearby industrial unit to use as garage/workshop space.
I WOULD NOT RUN A BUSINESS FROM IT.
Would I have to pay business rates on it. The current owner just uses it to store their st, so I'd hope that was OK.
Look up the rateable value here : https://www.gov.uk/correct-your-business-rates

If its less than £12K then you get 100% relief i.e. no rates payable.