DB11 effect on DB9 prices?
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Hi
I don't really follow DB9 prices well enough to know the answer to this.
Just wondered if DB11's have had any effect on DB9 prices? The earliest ones and the more recent ones.
Be interested to know if the price has gone down due it being an old model, or, if the high starting price of the DB11 has resulted in upping the DB9 market?
Cheers
I don't really follow DB9 prices well enough to know the answer to this.
Just wondered if DB11's have had any effect on DB9 prices? The earliest ones and the more recent ones.
Be interested to know if the price has gone down due it being an old model, or, if the high starting price of the DB11 has resulted in upping the DB9 market?
Cheers
_Exocet_ said:
I have been wondering the same thing, but for the new Vantage.
Buying now or waiting another year to potentially get a more for your money is a really tough choice.
Buying now or waiting another year to potentially get a more for your money is a really tough choice.
Like all financial forecasting, nobody knows, even though many try.
Even so, it is fun to guess.
The present Vantage was greeted instantly at launch in 2003, with unanimous admiration.
The order book quickly filled, and AML soon reached their record production figure.
14 years later, the design of the Vantage is still much admired (although of course the numbers of new cars built now, are way down on the early years). That must be quite a rare occurrence in car design.
A version of the car is still winning motor racing championships.
It is presumed to be the very last naturally aspirated AM V8.
There is a great deal to keep demand up for the present Vantage, so perhaps it all depends how much Wow there is, when the covers are pulled back on the replacement model (perhaps later this year).
In other words, the answer to your question is, I don't know.
I might start looking now though, because it could take a long time to find exactly the car that you want. Finding that might be more important than buying at a lower price. I looked for about one year before purchasing.
Edited by Jon39 on Monday 3rd April 11:20
I think AM will be more concerned of the initial comments when the covers finally come off the new Vantage. After all its going to be its bread and butter car. They would of gauged the responses of the DB11 which whilst people said it grew on them once seen in the flesh (providing AM get the launch colours right!) it wasn't meeting the universal adoration that the DB9 did.
No getting away from the fact that the Vantage is around 12 years old so any new car will be technically better the looks need to be right to get that person out of his chair and take trip to the nearest dealer on a Sat afternoon....and it has to continue to do so long after the launch furore has died down.
Do AM make a evolution new Vantage (like Porsche with its 911) or do they go daring? I don't they can afford to be too daring but at the same time looking at some of the testing mules going around (no exactly a correct method) they are going for the evolution stylee.
I think the older Vantages will keep their prices buoyant and with the "last of the normal V8's/manual" attachment I don't think anyone will be too hurt buying one.
No getting away from the fact that the Vantage is around 12 years old so any new car will be technically better the looks need to be right to get that person out of his chair and take trip to the nearest dealer on a Sat afternoon....and it has to continue to do so long after the launch furore has died down.
Do AM make a evolution new Vantage (like Porsche with its 911) or do they go daring? I don't they can afford to be too daring but at the same time looking at some of the testing mules going around (no exactly a correct method) they are going for the evolution stylee.
I think the older Vantages will keep their prices buoyant and with the "last of the normal V8's/manual" attachment I don't think anyone will be too hurt buying one.
HBradley said:
The new Vantage will be approx £90k?
Ahhh, you may be sorely disappointed there. Everything I'm hearing (from reasonably solid sources) is that AM plan to bring the entry point of ownership up quite a bit.......circa £120k seems to be the number I've heard more than once.Basically they want the Vantage to be a direct competitor to the 911 Turbo, so it'll be priced accordingly.
Big Ry said:
HBradley said:
The new Vantage will be approx £90k?
Ahhh, you may be sorely disappointed there. Everything I'm hearing (from reasonably solid sources) is that AM plan to bring the entry point of ownership up quite a bit.......circa £120k seems to be the number I've heard more than once.Basically they want the Vantage to be a direct competitor to the 911 Turbo, so it'll be priced accordingly.
Edited by HBradley on Monday 3rd April 13:14
Edited by HBradley on Monday 3rd April 13:22
rossyl said:
Lots of speculation about Vantage prices...
but were there any effects on DB9 prices?
but were there any effects on DB9 prices?
I see that 2 to 3 year old DB9s are between £90,000 to £100,000 with low mileages.
If anyone knows what the equivalent advertised prices were prior to the DB11 launch, that might answer rossyls question.
There are a couple of used Bond edition cars at £155,000 and £165,000, if you are in the mood to pay 50% extra.
HBradley said:
I know this is pointless speculation, but surely that'll be the S model alla V8VS? that'll be before options, which would bring it almost the same as a entry-level (an oxymoron I know) DB11!!!
As you say all speculation, but from what i'm hearing the "base" model Vantage will be closer £120k. To be fair though, what other cars are there out there with similar performance, heritage and badge etc for £90k(ish).......none from what I can tell. Everything else has gone up by quite a bit over the past few years, even the R8 starts at £123k now.... the F Type R is £90k FFS (don't get me started on the SVR...£111k!!!!). OK yeah, tech, gearbox etc etc.....but that aside the current Vantage in V8S form at least is a lot of car for the money, so I can see why AM need to crank it up a notch.Big Ry said:
HBradley said:
I know this is pointless speculation, but surely that'll be the S model alla V8VS? that'll be before options, which would bring it almost the same as a entry-level (an oxymoron I know) DB11!!!
As you say all speculation, but from what i'm hearing the "base" model Vantage will be closer £120k. To be fair though, what other cars are there out there with similar performance, heritage and badge etc for £90k(ish).......none from what I can tell. Everything else has gone up by quite a bit over the past few years, even the R8 starts at £123k now.... the F Type R is £90k FFS (don't get me started on the SVR...£111k!!!!). OK yeah, tech, gearbox etc etc.....but that aside the current Vantage in V8S form at least is a lot of car for the money, so I can see why AM need to crank it up a notch.Guess I'll just have to make do with a V12VS in a couple of years, quel dommage!!
Jon39 said:
I see that 2 to 3 year old DB9s are between £90,000 to £100,000 with low mileages.
If anyone knows what the equivalent advertised prices were prior to the DB11 launch, that might answer rossyls question.
There are a couple of used Bond edition cars at £155,000 and £165,000, if you are in the mood to pay 50% extra.
It quickly seemed to go into crystal ball like stuff to do with the Vantage.
If anyone had been following DB9 prices, for example those looking to buy a DB9 over the past 6 months, we might have been able to see what, if any, effect the DB11 has had on DB9 prices. Not crystal ball, but factual.
pbe624 said:
Just got a message from my (Belgian) dealer saying that later this year, the DB11 with V8 will be available for order... . Wonder how that will be priced against the new Vantage.
Cheers,
Frank
$200,000+ DB11 V8, $150,000+ Vantage V8 US $ starting prices IMO. We generally pay less than the rest of the world since we have no VAT or import taxes here. Cheers,
Frank
V8 Vantage GT said:
... We generally pay less than the rest of the world since we have no VAT or import taxes here.
I think your leader told a visiting lady from Germany, that would all be changing.
Something to do with, "Bringing jobs back".
Over here though, we are now confused about what he does want.
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 5th April 23:25
Jon39 said:
I think your leader told a visiting lady from Germany, that would all be changing.
Something to do with, "Bringing jobs back".
Over here though, we are now confused about what he does want.
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Don't know why you think that, but there is most definitely an import tariff on cars into the US.
Your correct, there are import tariffs on cars imported to the US, but they are minor compared to most other counties. Why do I the think these will be the prices on the DB11 V8 and the new Vantage V8? Because the the V12 DB11's are in the $250,000 range and their not moving. The Vantage GTS's are in the $150,000 range and their not moving. Dealer inventory for the DB11's is close to 6 months on the lots, the Vantage over 12 months. You can walk into any dealer and probably get $20,000 off any Vantage out there. Every day these cars sit, they lose $$. Stores are in business to sell cars, not to sit around and look pretty.
The DB11 V8 will have to sell for much less than the V12 if they want them to move. The next Vantage has to me inline price wise to the current generation or it won't move. Out of the gate they will move well but that only lasts for so long. After that they have to be competitive.
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