Starting after 3 month lay up
Starting after 3 month lay up
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Wayne95

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464 posts

277 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Heading back from 3 months away, excited to get the V8V back out from the garage and drive myself rather than scared by crazy Asian drivers in Korean saloons.

When I left I filled the tank, pumped the tyres, left the handbrake off and put on the CTEK battery conditioner.

When I come to start it, should I do anything else, especially to get some oil flowing in the engine before it fires up?

It will be in for a service in the next week or so, and just a quick spin or two before then.

Just want to make sure I don't cause any unnecessary issues

Big Ry

1,682 posts

150 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Wayne95 said:
When I come to start it, should I do anything else
Light candle, offering a sacrificial chicken and get down on your knees and pray.....that should do it wink

Joking aside, should be fine I'd have thought, it's not like it's been idle for years. Some cars don't move from dealers forecourts for three months so I reckon you'll be good as gold thumbup

mjk1

234 posts

257 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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After a layup, I always press the accelerator to the floor and press the starter button (no fuel is injected) until the oil pressure light goes out. After this I start it normally not touching the accelerator. This ensures all moving parts in the engine are protected with a film of oil before the combustion impulses start.

hornbaek

3,843 posts

266 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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mjk1 said:
After a layup, I always press the accelerator to the floor and press the starter button (no fuel is injected) until the oil pressure light goes out. After this I start it normally not touching the accelerator. This ensures all moving parts in the engine are protected with a film of oil before the combustion impulses start.
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Wayne95

Original Poster:

464 posts

277 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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mjk1 said:
After a layup, I always press the accelerator to the floor and press the starter button (no fuel is injected) until the oil pressure light goes out. After this I start it normally not touching the accelerator. This ensures all moving parts in the engine are protected with a film of oil before the combustion impulses start.
Thanks, I'm hoping it starts up fine, but will do the accelerator process first.

After such a long time away, and not driving at all, its a bit like new car day all over again without the wallet pain!

ilikeAstons

275 posts

135 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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I always use the accelerator trick too. It gets the oil around the engine after a lay-up, and Yes I agree - it always feels like a new car again, without wallet angst.

What always strikes me (apart from the sound) is the smell of that gorgeous leather, which never seems to weaken as the car ages.

Big thumbs up!

petop

2,410 posts

197 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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As above do the accelerator thing. My car has 3 month breaks as I also work away. Occasionally it may go out during the 3 months if SWMBO takes it out otherwise it stays in the garage. Never had an issue with it.

Buster73

5,636 posts

184 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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I'll try that tip on me lawnmower, thanks .

mjk1

234 posts

257 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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If you mower is anything like mine, once the chords pulled for 10 minutes trying to start it, the oil is well circulated.

CraigV12V

304 posts

184 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Just a thought for future.

I read that you should leave car with full fuel tank before winter lay up. A low or empty tank means a decent volume of air can get pumped in and out over the cycle of a days temps rising and falling, expanding and contracting the volume of air in your tank. This will suck in moist air which then condensates on tank wall and starts to slowly increase the water volume in your tank. Not sure what harm can come from a lot of water in your fuel, can't be good for the engine though.

So the advice apparently is to top off your tank so their is only a little air that can be pumped in and out.

Just re-read and noted you did fill tank before lay up banghead so this message is somewhat redundant for you.


Edited by CraigV12V on Wednesday 5th April 14:38

davek_964

11,359 posts

206 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Blimey.

My 360 does get used over winter but fairly rarely. It's probably often sitting in the garage with hardly any petrol in it since - if it does get low - there seems to be no rush filling it up when I've no idea when it will next get used. And when I do use it, I simply get in and turn the key until it starts - no special starting process.

I'm surprised it still runs!

Jon39

15,003 posts

174 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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CraigV12V said:
Just a thought for future.

I read that you should leave car with full fuel tank before winter lay up. A low or empty tank means a decent volume of air can get pumped in and out over the cycle of a days temps rising and falling, expanding and contracting the volume of air in your tank. This will suck in moist air which then condensates on tank wall and starts to slowly increase the water volume in your tank. Not sure what harm can come from a lot of water in your fuel, can't be good for the engine though.

So the advice apparently is to top off your tank so their is only a little air that can be pumped in and out.

Thank you for that tip. All very logical, but I had not even thought about it.
Might have been day dreaming , when my science master was explaining those principles.







petop

2,410 posts

197 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Ref fuel in the tank. It is indeed better to leave it filled up. Void in the tank allows increased vapours to be given off which in turn allows the "light ends" to go. This amongst other thing ages the fuel. 3 months though wont make much difference. Gum deposits are your biggest enemy in the petrol engine as well as water.
Water in any amounts is not good for fuel and being heavier than fuel, will sit in the bottom of your tank. Now to be honest, temperate climates like the UK we tend not to have massive differences in night and day temps. Certainly not in the garage.
Condensation though can form on the walls of the tank and then falls to the bottom, hence keep your tank filled up.

mioh

29 posts

142 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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Wayne95 said:
When I left I filled the tank, pumped the tyres, left the handbrake off and put on the CTEK battery conditioner.
During winter I don't drive my DB9 and leave it just like you did with full tank, raised pressure in tyres, handbrake off and CTEK connected.

Start it like others in this thread. But before leaving the garage I check fluids are OK and lower tyre pressure to recommeded driving values. (Have about 3.0 bar during storage.)

Wayne95

Original Poster:

464 posts

277 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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mioh said:
uring winter I don't drive my DB9 and leave it just like you did with full tank, raised pressure in tyres, handbrake off and CTEK connected.

Start it like others in this thread. But before leaving the garage I check fluids are OK and lower tyre pressure to recommeded driving values. (Have about 3.0 bar during storage.)
I guess many Aston's spend the winter asleep, so I'm hopeful. Interestingly my daughter got back last week, jumped in her VW Up! that's sat outside, no charger, for the same time and it started straight away.


Cold

16,742 posts

121 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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Wayne95 said:
I guess many Aston's spend the winter asleep, so I'm hopeful. Interestingly my daughter got back last week, jumped in her VW Up! that's sat outside, no charger, for the same time and it started straight away.
You can do exactly the same with your car, battery health notwithstanding. Lots do like to crank the engine for ages until the light goes out, but there's no real need to these days. Just start the car, it's not exactly an F1 engine.

Jon39

15,003 posts

174 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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Wayne95 said:
mioh said:
uring winter I don't drive my DB9 and leave it just like you did with full tank, raised pressure in tyres, handbrake off and CTEK connected.

Start it like others in this thread. But before leaving the garage I check fluids are OK and lower tyre pressure to recommeded driving values. (Have about 3.0 bar during storage.)
I guess many Aston's spend the winter asleep, so I'm hopeful. Interestingly my daughter got back last week, jumped in her VW Up! that's sat outside, no charger, for the same time and it started straight away.

On one occasion after about two months of not being used, I experience tyre flat spots for several miles.
When everything was hot, I was able to safely drive quickly through a couple of hairpin corners and that cured the problem.
Perhaps it might not have occurred if I had increased tyre pressures as suggested, but I had not expected the period of disuse.
I now push the car a little, so the weight is on a different low point of the tyres.



Wayne95

Original Poster:

464 posts

277 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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Back home today, into the garage, do the accelerator down and turn engine over to circulate oil then - V8 music :-)

Started fine and sounded so good.

Brakes were a little stuck which surprised me, but a gentle drive down the road seemed to sort it out.

Tyre pressures now reset to normal.

Looking forward to a good drive tomorrow once the jet lag has gone a bit and a full nights sleep


jeyjey

221 posts

128 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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Brakes will stick if the discs are put away wet (they rust a bit on the surface). Nothing to worry about.

Cheers,
Jeff.

F1NDW

411 posts

182 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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My handbook says that the tyres should be pumped up to 70psi if the car is going to be left for any length of time. That was for the original Yokohama's. It's now got Mitchelin tyres and they have max pressure 55psi stamped on them so that's what i take them to now.