2004 City Rover (Tata Indica) won't start

[Callybae]

Hi guys, new to this forum and would love some help

I have a 2004 City rover that was bought on the cheap to drive whilst I was working on my daily.

I was taking the fiancée to work one morning, eased off the throttle down hill, and as I put my foot back on the throttle to get up the next hill, the car started going "dugga dugga dugga" so I immediately stwitched it off and coasted to a safe place to stop.

Wouldn't start when I turned it over, unless you pressed the throttle and had the same dugga dugga noise. It was towed home and I promptly fixed my daily

A month later, I took the valve cover off and nothing seemed out of place, or loose. The cam belt is in tact and nothing seems out of place. Once I took th plugs out, I saw that number two was mangled. We replaced that plug as we couldn't see anything in the cylinder when turning over manually.

Now however, it makes the same noise (albeit slightly quieter) but is no longer mangling the plugs. It only runs when jump started and foot on full throttle, then dies when foot it taken off the throttle.

Has anybody any ideas how to sort this out? And it's not insured, so the "gallon of petrol" trick isn't really good


Many many thanks in advance

Callum

[Callybae]

Here's the pic of the spark plug from number 2 cylinder

[GreenV8S]

Any compression on the cylinder that plug came from?

[S0 What]

As above, do (or get done for you) a compression check on all the cylinders, at a guess i'd say the bit of missing plug has wedged a valve open/damaged a seat if your lucky or scored a bore if your not, when i say lucky i meen it will be cheaper to fix

[Callybae]

Thanks for your replies I can't do a compression test with my equipment because the spake plugs have a really long horrible and odd angled "hole" that they go into, and it won't seal properly.
Also, it's a poor picture but I think all of the spark plug is still inside itself.

[pingu393]

Compression test.

I don't think you will get away with not having to take the head off.

Just a case of how much you want to bodge it as to how much it will cost to fix.

[Callybae]

Yeah that's the issue, it's really not worth fixing TBH. I just want it running to be sold so I can recoup some money that I've lost in it. Put a clutch in the barstool too...

[Callybae]

I'll see if I can lend any equipment to do a compression test this weekend

[fatjon]

My money is on a dropped valve or a dropped lump of a valve.

[stevieturbo]

Given the plug damage, a compression test is a waste of time.

There is major damage in there

[GreenV8S]

Callybae said:

I'll see if I can lend any equipment to do a compression test this weekend

Just turn it over by hand with your thumb over the hole? Basically you want to find out whether there's any compression at all. Although I suspect stevieturbo is right and this is more for forensics than out of any hope it'll be repairable.

[Munter]

Dear Ebay,
Here we have my car, it's broken, didn't drive when parked. Buyer collects.

Thanks
OP

[Mignon]

Lol at " we replaced that plug". Ummm why? Did you think the chunk of metal (valve head probably) that smashed it would go away again?

[Callybae]

We replaced the plug because we couldn't see anything in the cylinder. A plug is only £3 anyways so not exactly lost a lot of money. The point I was thinking about was it's not doing it now, so could the debris (plug or whatever) have left the cylinder?

[t400ble]

Its probably lodged itself in the piston!

[GreenV8S]

t400ble said:

Its probably lodged itself in the piston!

It's probably lodged itself in the sump.

[stevieturbo]

your piston probably looks a bit like this lol



http://www.psychobike.com/forums/attachments/garag...

[pingu393]

stevieturbo said:

your piston probably looks a bit like this lol



http://www.psychobike.com/forums/attachments/garag...

A good ally welder could sort that for a pint