Vanquish or DB11?
Discussion
james-witton said:
In the last few weeks I have been lucky enough to have an extended drive of the DB11 and have just been out in the new Vanquish S.
Both unbelievable cars and a real step forward/up from my 5yr old Virage.
But these cars have very different characteristics.
Which would you have?
James
It's a seriously tough callBoth unbelievable cars and a real step forward/up from my 5yr old Virage.
But these cars have very different characteristics.
Which would you have?
James
I'm normally a lover of soft tops but everytime I see a Vanquish coupe, particularly in a dark colour, liek the black one I keep seeing near me, I'm struck by just what a great looking car it is.
In terms of looks, I think it will stand the test of time better than DB11 and of course, it's naturally aspirated which means great noise and great throttle response, especially in S format
If we are talking purely emotively rather than the more difficult questions of which is the financial better bet or which might be easier to live with day to day, then for me it's Vanquish hands down
Obviously another partisan vote for Vanquish. Didn't give it a second thought when I made my decision.
As for the future, when the DB11 is available in DB9 volumes, I think it makes even more sense.
Look at it this way, how many people would go for a 2004 Vanquish that had been out for 3 years before a 2004 DB9 now?
All the tech will get dated, well the Vanquish already is, performance will move on and one will always be the flagship Aston if its time, and the other will be the "entry" level volume GT.
I've never been bothered about having the newest thing, and really that's the only thing for me the DB11 wins on.
As for the future, when the DB11 is available in DB9 volumes, I think it makes even more sense.
Look at it this way, how many people would go for a 2004 Vanquish that had been out for 3 years before a 2004 DB9 now?
All the tech will get dated, well the Vanquish already is, performance will move on and one will always be the flagship Aston if its time, and the other will be the "entry" level volume GT.
I've never been bothered about having the newest thing, and really that's the only thing for me the DB11 wins on.
petop said:
Someone mentioned about AM watching forums like this.
With the above choices being made the AM Head of Future Sales (Anything Other Than VH Platform Cars Section!) is probably saying "mmm!, what do they know"!!
You are probably right.With the above choices being made the AM Head of Future Sales (Anything Other Than VH Platform Cars Section!) is probably saying "mmm!, what do they know"!!
Most of us like what we already have.
Small point about VH Platform.
The VH Platform chassis / frame structure was a mass of alloy components, bonded together with very sticky glue.
The latest DB 11 chassis / frame structure is a mass of alloy components, bonded together with very sticky glue.
It is the name that has changed, to stop journalists saying the chassis is very old.
Volkswagen Group have I believe only recently adopted a modular alloy chassis, 15 years after AM. Journalists say it is wonderful.
Perhaps we are exactly the wrong audience to answer this question?
Most of us have been weaned on the VH Platform with the NA engine, some of our cars date back to 2004 & we love them because they are quintessentially old school brute force & wonderful noise (V8 or V12)! BUT they are precisely that, 2004 technology & things have moved on significantly in terms of technology & customer requirements.
Perhaps very few of us will buy any of the next generation cars, preferring to work our way up the current model range in pre-owned form, which will be great for residual values.
I applaud what Andy P & the team at Gaydon are doing & I think the DB11 will be a success, as will the new Vantage etc, fundamentally because they are pretty damn good at what they do!
Most of us have been weaned on the VH Platform with the NA engine, some of our cars date back to 2004 & we love them because they are quintessentially old school brute force & wonderful noise (V8 or V12)! BUT they are precisely that, 2004 technology & things have moved on significantly in terms of technology & customer requirements.
Perhaps very few of us will buy any of the next generation cars, preferring to work our way up the current model range in pre-owned form, which will be great for residual values.
I applaud what Andy P & the team at Gaydon are doing & I think the DB11 will be a success, as will the new Vantage etc, fundamentally because they are pretty damn good at what they do!
Jon39 said:
Small point about VH Platform.
The VH Platform chassis / frame structure was a mass of alloy components, bonded together with very sticky glue.
The latest DB 11 chassis / frame structure is a mass of alloy components, bonded together with very sticky glue.
It is the name that has changed, to stop journalists saying the chassis is very old.
Volkswagen Group have I believe only recently adopted a modular alloy chassis, 15 years after AM. Journalists say it is wonderful.
The VH Platform chassis / frame structure was a mass of alloy components, bonded together with very sticky glue.
The latest DB 11 chassis / frame structure is a mass of alloy components, bonded together with very sticky glue.
It is the name that has changed, to stop journalists saying the chassis is very old.
Volkswagen Group have I believe only recently adopted a modular alloy chassis, 15 years after AM. Journalists say it is wonderful.
Perhaps we are exactly the wrong audience to answer this question?
Most of us have been weaned on the VH Platform with the NA engine, some of our cars date back to 2004 & we love them because they are quintessentially old school brute force & wonderful noise (V8 or V12)! BUT they are precisely that, 2004 technology & things have moved on significantly in terms of technology & customer requirements.
Perhaps very few of us will buy any of the next generation cars, preferring to work our way up the current model range in pre-owned form, which will be great for residual values.
I applaud what Andy P & the team at Gaydon are doing & I think the DB11 will be a success, as will the new Vantage etc, fundamentally because they are pretty damn good at what they do!
Most of us have been weaned on the VH Platform with the NA engine, some of our cars date back to 2004 & we love them because they are quintessentially old school brute force & wonderful noise (V8 or V12)! BUT they are precisely that, 2004 technology & things have moved on significantly in terms of technology & customer requirements.
Perhaps very few of us will buy any of the next generation cars, preferring to work our way up the current model range in pre-owned form, which will be great for residual values.
I applaud what Andy P & the team at Gaydon are doing & I think the DB11 will be a success, as will the new Vantage etc, fundamentally because they are pretty damn good at what they do!
HBradley said:
Perhaps we are exactly the wrong audience to answer this question?
Most of us have been weaned on the VH Platform with the NA engine, some of our cars date back to 2004 & we love them because they are quintessentially old school brute force & wonderful noise (V8 or V12)! BUT they are precisely that, 2004 technology & things have moved on significantly in terms of technology & customer requirements.
Perhaps very few of us will buy any of the next generation cars, preferring to work our way up the current model range in pre-owned form, which will be great for residual values.
I applaud what Andy P & the team at Gaydon are doing & I think the DB11 will be a success, as will the new Vantage etc, fundamentally because they are pretty damn good at what they do!
Agree with a lot of that but the fact remains, side by side, in 2017, if you didn't know what was inside or underneath, I think Vanquish is the more impressive sight. Not because I dislike DB11, but because Vanquish (in the right colour) is stunningMost of us have been weaned on the VH Platform with the NA engine, some of our cars date back to 2004 & we love them because they are quintessentially old school brute force & wonderful noise (V8 or V12)! BUT they are precisely that, 2004 technology & things have moved on significantly in terms of technology & customer requirements.
Perhaps very few of us will buy any of the next generation cars, preferring to work our way up the current model range in pre-owned form, which will be great for residual values.
I applaud what Andy P & the team at Gaydon are doing & I think the DB11 will be a success, as will the new Vantage etc, fundamentally because they are pretty damn good at what they do!
jonby said:
Agree with a lot of that but the fact remains, side by side, in 2017, if you didn't know what was inside or underneath, I think Vanquish is the more impressive sight. Not because I dislike DB11, but because Vanquish (in the right colour) is stunning
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