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Duke of Kidderminster

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761 posts

156 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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I don't get it, I genuinely don't understand!

Sat across from a guy on a plane today. Hostess announces that all phones should now be in flight mode or off. Guy ignores this.

As they walk through the aisles the hostess tells him to turn it off, "sure" he says. But ignores it.

On her return trip she tells him again so he puts it in his pocket. 2 minutes later he's back on Facebook. Someone tells him to turn it off as we're going down the runway and he gives a dirty look, huff and puff and sticks it in his pocket.

Then while looking around I spot other people on their phones as well. Not kids either!

I am lost. You've been asked to turn it off, so do so. Just because you think it's harmless is irrelevant, you were requested to keep it off!

I'm sure that there is a PHer here that also doesn't turn their phone off on the plane despite being asked to, and would love to hear their reasoning for it! I genuinely want to understand their reasoning. To me, it's just simple courtesy to the crew and fellow passengers, so why not do it?

Puggit

49,788 posts

277 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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I don't turn my phone off on a plane because I fly BA and they allow me to keep it on tongue out

(in airplane mode once the doors close, then off airplane mode once the plane is on the taxiway after landing)

Sheetmaself

6,115 posts

227 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Where were you? I normally find Europe and US is okay for turning them off but Asians either dont care or know something we dont. We took off the other day from Shanghai on China Eastern and about 5 people in view were making phone calls

Duke of Kidderminster

Original Poster:

761 posts

156 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Flew London to Lisbon. I reckon I spot at least 3 people on every flight I take trying to use their phones on the sly.

Rick101

7,186 posts

179 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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People ignore it because they are not given a good reason.


ch108

1,127 posts

162 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Rick101 said:
People ignore it because they are not given a good reason.
Surely being asked to turn it off by air staff should be enough reason? Why do people not ask the air steward for a valid reason if that is the case instead of saying they will turn it off then don't? Because they know they are in the wrong.

Can people really not survive without their phone for a few hours?

I was on a flight from Dublin to Edinburgh. A flight that at most would be about 45 minutes to an hour. The guy sat next to me was never off his phone, texting or whatever. Phone in and out his pocket constantly. And then the plane had barely touched down in Edinburgh and he was taking a call as we were still taxiing along the runway. From what I heard of the conversation it wasn't anything that couldn't have waited until he was inside the terminal building.

It seems some folk just don't think the rules apply to them.


bitchstewie

67,239 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Rick101 said:
People ignore it because they are not given a good reason.
To me not wanting to risk dying in a plane crash is reason enough.

I don't fly much but did recently and the same as the OP I was very surprised at a) how many people simply ignore the instructions and b) that given mobile phones are way more prevalent than they were when I last flew, asking 300 people to do something impacting safety still seems to be based on the "honour" system.

KingNothing

3,334 posts

182 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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bhstewie said:
To me not wanting to risk dying in a plane crash is reason enough.
Pretty hyperbolic reason if you ask me, I always thought it was.

gr1340

987 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Had a mobile phone ever caused a problem with a plane?

Or is it a myth like a swan breaking you arm?

KingNothing

3,334 posts

182 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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If one guy using facebook inside the fuselage is enough to stop a £300 million jumbo jet crammed full of state of the art electonics and avionics from performing it's sole duty of flying, then I'd love to know how it manages it when the airwaves around the entire plane are crammed full of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of telecommunication signals at any one time.

bitchstewie

67,239 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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KingNothing said:
bhstewie said:
To me not wanting to risk dying in a plane crash is reason enough.
Pretty hyperbolic reason if you ask me, I always thought it was.
I agree, but for me it's a bottom line which means my phone call or text can wait until I'm told I can make it.

If anyone chimes in who's an EMC or aircraft avionics expert fair enough, but in the meantime I'll assume they ask people to put things in flight-safe mode for a reason.

Duke of Kidderminster

Original Poster:

761 posts

156 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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KingNothing said:
If one guy using facebook inside the fuselage is enough to stop a £300 million jumbo jet crammed full of state of the art electonics and avionics from performing it's sole duty of flying, then I'd love to know how it manages it when the airwaves around the entire plane are crammed full of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of telecommunication signals at any one time.
Or raise your issue with BA rather than ignoring it. That's disrespectful to the crew and passengers.

You don't run a red light at 3 am even when you can see the road is clear so no accident will occur, so your logic doesn't hold.

Maybe the reason is so that, in the case of an emergency, the crew has your attention rather than you having your nose stuck in daily mail articles

98elise

32,486 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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KingNothing said:
If one guy using facebook inside the fuselage is enough to stop a £300 million jumbo jet crammed full of state of the art electonics and avionics from performing it's sole duty of flying, then I'd love to know how it manages it when the airwaves around the entire plane are crammed full of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of telecommunication signals at any one time.
The distance from the transmitter makes a huge difference. Now imagine how much interference 400 mobile phones can cause, especialy when they ramp up power when they can't find a phone mast.

Planes systems cannot tested for every variety of transmitting device ever made, so they simply ask you to turn them off. Ignoring a safety request from the cabin crew should result in you being asked to leave the plane in my book.





Edited by 98elise on Saturday 8th April 15:31

Robbo 27

4,275 posts

128 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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I must have had a guerilla stewardness last time I flew which was UK to UAE.

During the safety announcement she took the newspapers off people who were reading instead of listening.

No one said a word back.

Talk on the phone and you would have lost your nadgers.


Taita

7,994 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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I was asked to turn a Kindle off during a flight last week, yet wasn't during the return leg with the same airline.

If you want people to follow rules, you need to explain WHY (and for it to be correct!)

KingNothing

3,334 posts

182 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Duke of Kidderminster said:
Or raise your issue with BA rather than ignoring it. That's disrespectful to the crew and passengers.
I don't, my phone goes off in my bag before I board anyway, can't be arsed fking about trying to put it away on the plane, and I don't want to sit with it in my pocket for the duration of the flight.

ambuletz

11,733 posts

210 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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KingNothing said:
If one guy using facebook inside the fuselage is enough to stop a £300 million jumbo jet crammed full of state of the art electonics and avionics from performing it's sole duty of flying, then I'd love to know how it manages it when the airwaves around the entire plane are crammed full of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of telecommunication signals at any one time.
exactly. the plane costs millions and has equipment that costs thousands. how is 1 persons mobile phone going to interfere with that? and an air steward saying to turn it off isn't much of a good reason to do so. I put mine into flight mode anyway cos I'm a decent human.

People don't listen. the same happens when the plane has touched down, soon as it's down you hear dozens of clicks as people take their seat belt off even though they tell you to wait until it's properly stopped.

Rick101

7,186 posts

179 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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I think the real danger is bottles of water.

andymc

7,616 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Rick101 said:
I think the real danger is bottles of water.
or the bombs

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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They have the potential to interfere with navigational instruments but also may interfere with the radio the pilot uses to communicate.
Better safe than sorry.