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Recently sold my vintage vauxhall in favour of a classic car from the 1960's. The classic is fine
car but it's perhaps just not me.
Seen a lovely Rover 16/50 of 1925 vintage advertised on carandclassic. Looks nice and is a me type car. Problem is I know I should keep the classic and ignore the vintage, sold my vauxhall owing to the lack of spares and the shrinking market for resale.
Head or heart, what would you do?
car but it's perhaps just not me.
Seen a lovely Rover 16/50 of 1925 vintage advertised on carandclassic. Looks nice and is a me type car. Problem is I know I should keep the classic and ignore the vintage, sold my vauxhall owing to the lack of spares and the shrinking market for resale.
Head or heart, what would you do?
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Yup, consider myself fortunate indeed to have the choice. Must say the classic is nice and smooth, brilliant for those longer runs, synchro gearbox, heater, windscreen wipers that work and a host of other goodies.
Great looking Dolly by the way, one of my bro's enjoyed one of those back in the day. I recall the car well, same colour as yours and green shaded glass, very cool.
Yup, consider myself fortunate indeed to have the choice. Must say the classic is nice and smooth, brilliant for those longer runs, synchro gearbox, heater, windscreen wipers that work and a host of other goodies.
Great looking Dolly by the way, one of my bro's enjoyed one of those back in the day. I recall the car well, same colour as yours and green shaded glass, very cool.
Breadvan72 said:
Heart . If you prefer pre War, go pre War. I live mostly in the 70s and 80s, and have never been brave enough to go earlier than 1960, although I am currently getting a yen for 40s and 50s stuff. Hell, I might even go 40s American.
Yep, heart always.OP is a clearly a pre-war fan, and we aren't on this planet long enough so enjoy what you love the most not what you are trying to convince yourself you 'should' prefer.
Sell the Volvo and get the pre-war and just enjoy it what you prefer and are more comfortable with.
Breadvan, we're pretty much the same age, and while I love at lot of the stuff I grew up with in the 60's and 70's, back in that time as kid I also had the interest of the decades before I was born, and so I'm a pre-60 man at heart, and I find the challenge of driving pre-war and just post-war stuff to be hugely enjoyable, as it is just so different to anything from the early 60's onwards once radial tyres, better steering, disc brakes, seat belts, indicators and what not all became part of driving.
Go on.....try it, you might enjoy it
Heart, every time. I've never owned a pre-war car but I'd buy one in an instant if I had the opportunity. My '54 Riley RME was enjoyable and my '63 One-Point-Five is a great deal of fun but I know deep down a Sprite or MPH is what I'd most like to 'pilot'; no chance though - out of my budget and too small for my corpulent frame.
Riley Blue said:
Heart, every time. I've never owned a pre-war car but I'd buy one in an instant if I had the opportunity. My '54 Riley RME was enjoyable and my '63 One-Point-Five is a great deal of fun but I know deep down a Sprite or MPH is what I'd most like to 'pilot'; no chance though - out of my budget and too small for my corpulent frame.
My other half and I enjoyed a 1.5 wolesley, lovely little car and so reliable. Wooden dashboard and. nice wolesley badge on the radiator grill that shone so proudly in the dark of night.Willhire89 said:
crankedup said:
and the shrinking market for resale.
I would be interested on what grounds you base this commentThe prices of vintage have remained fairly static over the past ten years, exceptions are the A7 and high end cars.
This is my perception and having said all this I have very strong affections for vintage cars and feel a little sad that they are leaving the stage perhaps. Although I may be buying another vintage car soon!
Willhire89 said:
I would be interested on what grounds you base this comment
I hade this discussion with a colleague at work recently. He was of the opinion that cars which really appealed in ones youth/early adulthood were often the ones that people went for when they were in comfortable middle age and able to afford a classic. Hence perhaps the price rises seen in certain cars of the 60's and early 70's. As regards vintage (pre-war) and early post war cars, maybe the market for these (leaving aside certain exceptional cars) is flattening out as there is not the same enthusiasm for them amongst the baby boomers.Well, that sounded like a perfectly sensible explanation to me when I went to the Barratt Jackson auctions ten years ago. I was told that people were offloading the 1950s cars because that generation of people were dying out. Except that 1950s cars, such as the, the Bel Air, have rocketed. And prewar cars are hardly languishing are they? Ten years back an Invicta Low Chassis was about 30% of what it is today. I don't ever see the sit-up-and-beg post-war Fords being worth a fortune, not the Herald or Marina, and so it seems that there are some cars people adore and others they don't. And of course, cars come in and out of fashion too. E-type prices seem on the wane at the moment.
OP, do you have something "modern" to use as a daily? The proverbial Volvo estate, as it were.
If you do, I'd say go for whatever the hell you like as a second car; pre-war, post-war, whatever!
If you're looking to use your vintage/classic as your one and only car, then reliability, practicality, driveability, etc. needs to be taken into account.
If you do, I'd say go for whatever the hell you like as a second car; pre-war, post-war, whatever!
If you're looking to use your vintage/classic as your one and only car, then reliability, practicality, driveability, etc. needs to be taken into account.
crankedup said:
Willhire89 said:
crankedup said:
and the shrinking market for resale.
I would be interested on what grounds you base this commentThe prices of vintage have remained fairly static over the past ten years, exceptions are the A7 and high end cars.
This is my perception and having said all this I have very strong affections for vintage cars and feel a little sad that they are leaving the stage perhaps. Although I may be buying another vintage car soon!
Yes, newer stuff will hold the interest of a lot of younger people, just as in my youth cars of the 70's were struggling to be considered 'classics' as they were only 5-10 years old at the time.
But, I know of a lot of under-30's that have an interest in pre-1960 cars!
You need to own/drive what gives you the 'fizz' not what you think other people like.
aeropilot said:
crankedup said:
Willhire89 said:
crankedup said:
and the shrinking market for resale.
I would be interested on what grounds you base this commentThe prices of vintage have remained fairly static over the past ten years, exceptions are the A7 and high end cars.
This is my perception and having said all this I have very strong affections for vintage cars and feel a little sad that they are leaving the stage perhaps. Although I may be buying another vintage car soon!
Yes, newer stuff will hold the interest of a lot of younger people, just as in my youth cars of the 70's were struggling to be considered 'classics' as they were only 5-10 years old at the time.
But, I know of a lot of under-30's that have an interest in pre-1960 cars!
You need to own/drive what gives you the 'fizz' not what you think other people like.
It seems to me that if you've grown up around pre war cars you are more likely to go into them due to knowing a bit about them. Just look at the committees of most car clubs that have been around a while, most of the people running them are north of 60 (or even older!) with one of the constant gripes that there's no youngsters coming along to take over.
Purely on observation I agree with the OP, most car shows have only a handful of pre war cars these days, and when you do look at the owners, they're generally of more advanced years.
MorganP104 said:
OP, do you have something "modern" to use as a daily? The proverbial Volvo estate, as it were.
If you do, I'd say go for whatever the hell you like as a second car; pre-war, post-war, whatever!
If you're looking to use your vintage/classic as your one and only car, then reliability, practicality, driveability, etc. needs to be taken into account.
Elsewhere I have mentioned that I sold my vintage car in favour of a 1968 volvo and I also purchased a BMW E46 M3. Both cars have thier own distinct character and I feel lucky to own them. it somehow I am not bonding with either, especially the BMW which remains garaged. I feel that I will be selling both cars very sooIf you do, I'd say go for whatever the hell you like as a second car; pre-war, post-war, whatever!
If you're looking to use your vintage/classic as your one and only car, then reliability, practicality, driveability, etc. needs to be taken into account.
crankedup said:
1968 Volvo
Similarly, I had two P6's back in the day and loved them, bought one recently and hated it...it lasted a matter of weeks.Is your Amazon a 4 door?
For me, part of the problem (is it to be perceived as a problem?) is forbidden fruit. I waited years for the Keeble and then sold it. I'm hankering after a Daimler V8 250 Saloon with manual box I'm sure only because I can't find one!
I blame the internet.
^^^^^Huntsman, my amazon is the 123gt, they only were built in two door form. About 1500 were built in total, many of them used for endurance rallying back in the day. Apparently the usual problem of fakes crops up, fortunately mine comes with its original log book which states the model, along with a nice history.
My better half suggests I should keep it for a season and then decide to keep or not.
My better half suggests I should keep it for a season and then decide to keep or not.
crankedup said:
^^^^^Huntsman, my amazon is the 123gt, they only were built in two door form. About 1500 were built in total, many of them used for endurance rallying back in the day. Apparently the usual problem of fakes crops up, fortunately mine comes with its original log book which states the model, along with a nice history.
My better half suggests I should keep it for a season and then decide to keep or not.
I'd find it very hard to part with a 123GT, it's one of the cars I was considering before I went for the Riley. Give it a summer, at least - you might then grow to love it.My better half suggests I should keep it for a season and then decide to keep or not.
Thanks Riley, my better half suggested keep it for a season. I was eying a Rover 16/50 of 1925/6 vintage, really caught my eye, the perfect vintage car for me. Still no rush vintage cars don't sell fast, it was on the market for about 48 hours. Sort of gutted but maybe it's a sign for me to love my volvo!!
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