Hyundai sill repair
Discussion
Hi All,
I have a 1998 Hyundai Accent but buy this year MOT has been a major problem.
The rear driver side sill needs repaired on the inside and out and it has completely rusted through.
I am willing to weld it myself but has anyone had to do something similar th at could give me tips. Would be great if it was the same car but doubt that.
Any pointers would be great especially on were to get the steel to fabricate the plate and can't find replacements online.
Thanks
I have a 1998 Hyundai Accent but buy this year MOT has been a major problem.
The rear driver side sill needs repaired on the inside and out and it has completely rusted through.
I am willing to weld it myself but has anyone had to do something similar th at could give me tips. Would be great if it was the same car but doubt that.
Any pointers would be great especially on were to get the steel to fabricate the plate and can't find replacements online.
Thanks
Riley Blue said:
Harsh. Fair, but still harsh.
OP - unless you're an experienced welder, I'd leave this well alone. The sills of a car form an important part of its main structure, so getting it wrong will have disastrous consequences in the event of an accident.
The trouble is, paying someone else to do it will likely cost more than the car is worth.
Bit of a catch 22, this one.
Myself and my friend have been fixing cars for years have welded before, just not to this extent (can upload pictures later).
We have the knowledge of welding its just the fabrication of the sill before welding to the car that we are stumped on.
Would be mush better if we could find a manufactured replacement sill to weld on.
We have the knowledge of welding its just the fabrication of the sill before welding to the car that we are stumped on.
Would be mush better if we could find a manufactured replacement sill to weld on.
CrazyBaptie said:
Would be mush better if we could find a manufactured replacement sill to weld on.
That seems unlikely... More likely would be to find an Accent in a scrapyard with serviceable sills. If your welding gear is portable, and the scrapyard is amenable, cut the good ones out, and weld them onto your car.But still, a '98 Accent is only going to be worth £150 (in fact, even less with MoT-fail sills), so there's no mileage in spending decent money on fixing the car up.
The only reason we want to fit it up is it was my Grandads since new and has only 30K on the clock and that's due to us using it for road trips around the UK every year
I have been looking at scrapyards and finding one is a challenge, do you know of another cars that have the same or similar structure be it even a newer Accent, basically any pointers would be a great help as we can't scrap the car
I have been looking at scrapyards and finding one is a challenge, do you know of another cars that have the same or similar structure be it even a newer Accent, basically any pointers would be a great help as we can't scrap the car
CrazyBaptie said:
The only reason we want to fit it up is it was my Grandads since new and has only 30K on the clock and that's due to us using it for road trips around the UK every year
I have been looking at scrapyards and finding one is a challenge, do you know of another cars that have the same or similar structure be it even a newer Accent, basically any pointers would be a great help as we can't scrap the car
The fact that's its only got 30k on the clock is irrelevant if its structurally unsound, and effectively beyond economic repair.I have been looking at scrapyards and finding one is a challenge, do you know of another cars that have the same or similar structure be it even a newer Accent, basically any pointers would be a great help as we can't scrap the car
Have you actually gone into a Hyundai dealer and asked about a replacement panel? I suspect that they may well say NLA on a almost 20 year old model though!!!
From what I remember you can't get Hyundai parts from anywhere other than a Hyundai dealer....there are no Hyundai pattern parts around IIRC from someone that used to work with them some years back. That might have changed by now though.
You'll get suitable matching gauge sheet steel from a local sheet steel supplier to fabricate the repair panels yourself if you have the fab skills to do it yourself, but as others have said, not a job to undertake if you've not done something similar before.
Although, given its scrap value only, it would make a good candidate to practice on.
A sheet or half sheet of suitable steel is available from any local motor factors.... not Halfords though I suspect. Replicate al the original panels as closely as possible (inner, middle and outer) and cut away until you reach good metal - cut away more than you first think, rust is good at spreading. Weld slowly and it has to be a full weld as per original material (which was all one piece) but spots are allowed where that was the fixing of choice when made.
Good luck, take your time and clean everything back when fully welded and use a good rust proofing agent (weld through primer is good as well so it protects the backs of the panels before and after welding) and spray it into all the new box sections you have made. Done right, t will last a long long time and will be solid and strong. If you are in doubt about your capabilities get a local garage to do it but check their work as it is ofte just plates over rust and will last 5minutes.
Good luck, take your time and clean everything back when fully welded and use a good rust proofing agent (weld through primer is good as well so it protects the backs of the panels before and after welding) and spray it into all the new box sections you have made. Done right, t will last a long long time and will be solid and strong. If you are in doubt about your capabilities get a local garage to do it but check their work as it is ofte just plates over rust and will last 5minutes.
MorganP104 said:
There's a driver's sill listed in the link I posted... 
Riley Blue said:
MorganP104 said:
There's a driver's sill listed in the link I posted... Xtriple129 said:
A sheet or half sheet of suitable steel is available from any local motor factors.... not Halfords though I suspect. Replicate al the original panels as closely as possible (inner, middle and outer) and cut away until you reach good metal - cut away more than you first think, rust is good at spreading. Weld slowly and it has to be a full weld as per original material (which was all one piece) but spots are allowed where that was the fixing of choice when made.
Good luck, take your time and clean everything back when fully welded and use a good rust proofing agent (weld through primer is good as well so it protects the backs of the panels before and after welding) and spray it into all the new box sections you have made. Done right, t will last a long long time and will be solid and strong. If you are in doubt about your capabilities get a local garage to do it but check their work as it is ofte just plates over rust and will last 5minutes.
Excellent post - sums the job up perfectly.Good luck, take your time and clean everything back when fully welded and use a good rust proofing agent (weld through primer is good as well so it protects the backs of the panels before and after welding) and spray it into all the new box sections you have made. Done right, t will last a long long time and will be solid and strong. If you are in doubt about your capabilities get a local garage to do it but check their work as it is ofte just plates over rust and will last 5minutes.
The cills on my Fiesta lasted 17 years before needing attention
Again, another car where it "was not worth doing" - but why scrap a car for just a bit of welding?
One side just needing some bits chopping out and new metal welding in (no plating over holes!) - with the other it was more efficient to put a whole new panel in.
Good for at least another 17 years
MorganP104 said:
Riley Blue said:
MorganP104 said:
There's a driver's sill listed in the link I posted... 
Xtriple129 said:
A sheet or half sheet of suitable steel is available from any local motor factors.... not Halfords though I suspect. Replicate al the original panels as closely as possible (inner, middle and outer) and cut away until you reach good metal - cut away more than you first think, rust is good at spreading. Weld slowly and it has to be a full weld as per original material (which was all one piece) but spots are allowed where that was the fixing of choice when made.
Good luck, take your time and clean everything back when fully welded and use a good rust proofing agent (weld through primer is good as well so it protects the backs of the panels before and after welding) and spray it into all the new box sections you have made. Done right, t will last a long long time and will be solid and strong. If you are in doubt about your capabilities get a local garage to do it but check their work as it is ofte just plates over rust and will last 5minutes.
Thanks for the advice as will be looking to do it myself and that sums up exactly what is needing doneGood luck, take your time and clean everything back when fully welded and use a good rust proofing agent (weld through primer is good as well so it protects the backs of the panels before and after welding) and spray it into all the new box sections you have made. Done right, t will last a long long time and will be solid and strong. If you are in doubt about your capabilities get a local garage to do it but check their work as it is ofte just plates over rust and will last 5minutes.
I can thoroughly recommend this thread if you want some inspiration for making your own repair sections: http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/70135/panel...
droopsnoot said:
I can thoroughly recommend this thread if you want some inspiration for making your own repair sections: http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/70135/panel...
This is a good read, excellent work, nicely written. Thanks for the linkEdited by 23 on Monday 10th April 20:51
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