Bonnet License Plate
Discussion
Technically it is illegal
.....however James Auger has just sold a yellow griff with numberplate on bonnet, and the same car is featured in the bible showing number plate on bonnet (and he states its illegal as well)
so I reckon it could be at the discretion of the garage.
Can't coment on improvement..... but I know lots of people who do this on other marques of car.
.....however James Auger has just sold a yellow griff with numberplate on bonnet, and the same car is featured in the bible showing number plate on bonnet (and he states its illegal as well)
so I reckon it could be at the discretion of the garage.
Can't coment on improvement..... but I know lots of people who do this on other marques of car.
FourWheelDrift said:
Very common on Jaguar E-Types too.
'Tis legal on most E-types, I think the date is Jan 1st 1973 or thereabouts. Cars registered prior to this date have much more freedom than later registered cars.
As far as a Griff goes, it is not at the discretion of the garage, it is at the owner's risk, dependent on BiB reaction because it is indeed illegal.
as the above post says, its illegal indeed on vehicles beyond a certain age. 
That said, i had stick on number plates on both my scoobies and on my spitfire, and although i did get stopped twice, the BIB's only issue was the size of the lettering and the lack of bsa number. got those things done and was never stopped again. both times, the number plates position was not mentioned, as it was still clear and easy to read. i felt it helped with the cooling too, though obviously the vehicles are totally different to your griff (what isnt?!)
get a good one made with reflective backing rather than white, a bsa number and standard sized lettering and spacing and the BIB would have to be VERY bored to bother you with it. they may stop you, but as long as you have the above things, youre >more< legal.
additionally, and i didnt do this and im not recommending it, you COULD keep the original plate in the boot and say 'the car came like this, i assumed it was legal'. not that ignorance is any defence, and not that i condone that. in any way.
best wishes,
nerv.
That said, i had stick on number plates on both my scoobies and on my spitfire, and although i did get stopped twice, the BIB's only issue was the size of the lettering and the lack of bsa number. got those things done and was never stopped again. both times, the number plates position was not mentioned, as it was still clear and easy to read. i felt it helped with the cooling too, though obviously the vehicles are totally different to your griff (what isnt?!)
get a good one made with reflective backing rather than white, a bsa number and standard sized lettering and spacing and the BIB would have to be VERY bored to bother you with it. they may stop you, but as long as you have the above things, youre >more< legal.
additionally, and i didnt do this and im not recommending it, you COULD keep the original plate in the boot and say 'the car came like this, i assumed it was legal'. not that ignorance is any defence, and not that i condone that. in any way.
best wishes,
nerv.
had small plate on griff, yes ran cooler
currently have cerb with stick on nos on bonnet
used for 14 months, at mot time just tie wrap a std plate on, temporary
cerb runs alot cooler
view on www.tvrwestlancs.co.uk stable / silver cerb
currently have cerb with stick on nos on bonnet
used for 14 months, at mot time just tie wrap a std plate on, temporary
cerb runs alot cooler
view on www.tvrwestlancs.co.uk stable / silver cerb
On the matter of number plates I purchased the parts to make up a stick on number plate. Retangle yellow background with black border and black letters/numbers. Got home to find on the reverse of the plate section was a sticker stating 'under no circumstances should this be used to make up a number plate. To be used for signage only 
tvrjohn said:
had small plate on griff, yes ran cooler
currently have cerb with stick on nos on bonnet
used for 14 months, at mot time just tie wrap a std plate on, temporary
cerb runs alot cooler
view on www.tvrwestlancs.co.uk stable / silver cerb
Small plate?!?!
I thought plates had to be a certain size?
Could a small plate be a legal option to get the car to run cooler?
It may be illegal, but I think the plate looks best on the bonnet.
The trouble is that the badge is right in the middle of where the plate needs to go.
I took the badge off. This requires the two nyloc nuts that fasten it to the nose to be removed. These are a sod to get to with the air filter housing in place.
Removing the air filter housing to gain access is also a nasty little job...
As the original plate is held on with screws, removing it leaves a couple of unsightly holes that ought to be filled and airbrushed.
This is how it looked when the job was finished.
Being the indecisive tosser that I am, I have since returned the plate to its original place.
Cheers
Pat
The trouble is that the badge is right in the middle of where the plate needs to go.
I took the badge off. This requires the two nyloc nuts that fasten it to the nose to be removed. These are a sod to get to with the air filter housing in place.
Removing the air filter housing to gain access is also a nasty little job...
As the original plate is held on with screws, removing it leaves a couple of unsightly holes that ought to be filled and airbrushed.
This is how it looked when the job was finished.
Being the indecisive tosser that I am, I have since returned the plate to its original place.
Cheers
Pat
I was only saying what the bloke at the MOT test centre said
anyway just looked up the MOT Test maunal and this is what it says
Method of Inspection
. Check that there is a registration plate both at the front and the rear of the vehicle, and check each one for condition and security.
Reason for rejection
1. A registration plate;
a. missing
b. so insecure that it is likely to fall off
c. letter or figure missing or incomplete
d. Faded, dirty, deteriorated or obscured, (for example by a towbar so that it is likely to be misread or is not easily legible to a person standing approximately 20 metres to the front/rear of the vehicle.
Method of Inspection
2. Refer to page 6 and check visually that the letters and figures are correctly formed, spaced, and are not obviously likely to be misread due to, for example, badly positioned or uncovered retaining bolts etc (see information column
Style of letters/figures
Reason for rejection
2. A registration plate with:
a. letters and figures obviously incorrectly spaced
b. letter or figure not correctly formed or likely to be misread
c. a letter or figure which is obviously not of equal width along its entire length
d. any feature on a number plate that has the effect of changing the appearance or legibility of any of the characters, so that the true identity of the vehicle is less easily identified
Page 6 is about positioning of letters/numbers and type face
So it looks like that sticky number plates are legal, but sticking them on the bonnet probably means they can not be read from 20m....
Make of it what you want
>> Edited by Hoover33 on Friday 1st April 20:44
anyway just looked up the MOT Test maunal and this is what it says
Method of Inspection
. Check that there is a registration plate both at the front and the rear of the vehicle, and check each one for condition and security.
Reason for rejection
1. A registration plate;
a. missing
b. so insecure that it is likely to fall off
c. letter or figure missing or incomplete
d. Faded, dirty, deteriorated or obscured, (for example by a towbar so that it is likely to be misread or is not easily legible to a person standing approximately 20 metres to the front/rear of the vehicle.
Method of Inspection
2. Refer to page 6 and check visually that the letters and figures are correctly formed, spaced, and are not obviously likely to be misread due to, for example, badly positioned or uncovered retaining bolts etc (see information column
Style of letters/figures
Reason for rejection
2. A registration plate with:
a. letters and figures obviously incorrectly spaced
b. letter or figure not correctly formed or likely to be misread
c. a letter or figure which is obviously not of equal width along its entire length
d. any feature on a number plate that has the effect of changing the appearance or legibility of any of the characters, so that the true identity of the vehicle is less easily identified
Page 6 is about positioning of letters/numbers and type face
So it looks like that sticky number plates are legal, but sticking them on the bonnet probably means they can not be read from 20m....
Make of it what you want
>> Edited by Hoover33 on Friday 1st April 20:44
Just because a car passes the MOT does not mean that it is road legal!!
The MOT does not comprehensively test all aspects of Construction and Use Regulations, or the myriad other items of legislation which apply to road transport.
Check out the FAQ's on following Government website:
www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm
Stick on numberplates are NOT legal. IIRC, if you check out the detailed legislation of the The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001, it covers a lot of other stuff, too - things like the position of the plate must be vertical, fixings, etc., etc.
The MOT does not comprehensively test all aspects of Construction and Use Regulations, or the myriad other items of legislation which apply to road transport.
Check out the FAQ's on following Government website:
www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm
Stick on numberplates are NOT legal. IIRC, if you check out the detailed legislation of the The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001, it covers a lot of other stuff, too - things like the position of the plate must be vertical, fixings, etc., etc.
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