Later Suspension Setup

Later Suspension Setup

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Malcster

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647 posts

185 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Hi guys, I'm slowly going through little items on my Tuscan, and have started to look at the suspension. So I'm wondering two things:

1. How can I tell if I have the later set up? Look for 8 Holes on the Upright? Where are these holes? Any pics of the old Vs new uprights?

2. Were steering rack spacers used to raise the rack as part of the later suspension changes?

My car is a Sept '01 so hoping it has these newer items. It has the newer brake calipers (with only TVR printed on them).

Cheers in advance,
Malc

Jhonno

6,034 posts

155 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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1 clue would be the calipers fitted.. CP6600 are later uprights.

Basil Brush

5,308 posts

277 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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The top wishbones changed in Mar 2001 I think and you can tell by measuring the track rods. The early ones were c.335mm long and later were 306. I think the rack spacers came in later with the S.

Malcster

Original Poster:

647 posts

185 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Yep, so I have the newer calipers (just TVR printed, no AP Racing logo, 320mm discs). Also have the steering rack spacers (5mm) uprights with additional holes to cater for longer upper wish bones. Not sure if the rack spacers were added by a previous owner, or as part of the later post-march '01 setup? Either way, happy days.

It also has new Gaz Golds (10 clicks from soft at the rear, 12 at the front).

Unfortuantely, its feeling pretty twitchy up over 60mph. Especially over uneven roads.

My other car is a 172 cup, so I'm used to something that handles. Perhaps I'm looking for too much.

So, some further questions:

1. Having the later setup, do I still need the 3mm wheel spacers? (I'm running 18" spiders).

2. Has anyone got some recommended geo settings for this later setup?

A search throws up this:

Front
-1.0 degrees camber (negative)
1.0mm (8minutes) toe in overall (divide by two for individual wheel toe)
Caster to max (5 degrees) (adjusted via moving both shims to front of upper ball-joint, as opposed to one either side)

Rear:
-1.5 degrees camber (negative)
3.0mm (24minutes) toe in overall (divide by two for individual wheel toe)

Milky400

1,960 posts

192 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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I would advice that you get it setup and corner weighted by someone that knows there stuff.

Tonymg

768 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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some time this year have a service at Str8six they just down the Road from me and get them to do a set up and put me str8 and pay my cash



But is there a up to date Bush Kit for the Mk1 Tuscan? I mean to replace all the lot under the car? I do that my self as I give it a good lick of paint job on the frame and has any one done this?

pac1uk

272 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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I have just refreshed all the suspension bits, fitted Poly bushes all round. Chassis all cleaned and wishbones with new powder coating.


davidsc

325 posts

166 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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I spaced the steering rack which made a massive difference on my Tuscan.

Also raising the ride height does wonders!

Tonymg

768 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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pac1 were did you get all your bits and bats ? plus your poly bushs was it a kit ? have you got link to the site ? you got them from? or phone number? please I need to do the same as you asp please

Tony

pac1uk

272 posts

205 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Hi Tony,

Poly bush kit from TVR parts: tvr-parts.com
Droplinks and Exhaust mounting brackets from Racetech: /www.racetechdirect.co.uk
Ball joints and bolt kit from Powers: www.powersperformance.co.uk/

There are other dealers and the dealers listed above where used because they are either local or had good prices at the time of purchase.


Jhonno

6,034 posts

155 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Malcster said:
Yep, so I have the newer calipers (just TVR printed, no AP Racing logo, 320mm discs). Also have the steering rack spacers (5mm) uprights with additional holes to cater for longer upper wish bones. Not sure if the rack spacers were added by a previous owner, or as part of the later post-march '01 setup? Either way, happy days.

It also has new Gaz Golds (10 clicks from soft at the rear, 12 at the front).

Unfortuantely, its feeling pretty twitchy up over 60mph. Especially over uneven roads.

My other car is a 172 cup, so I'm used to something that handles. Perhaps I'm looking for too much.

So, some further questions:

1. Having the later setup, do I still need the 3mm wheel spacers? (I'm running 18" spiders).

2. Has anyone got some recommended geo settings for this later setup?

A search throws up this:

Front
-1.0 degrees camber (negative)
1.0mm (8minutes) toe in overall (divide by two for individual wheel toe)
Caster to max (5 degrees) (adjusted via moving both shims to front of upper ball-joint, as opposed to one either side)

Rear:
-1.5 degrees camber (negative)
3.0mm (24minutes) toe in overall (divide by two for individual wheel toe)
Tbh.. Gaz Golds aren't great. They might be contributing to the twitchy-ness. A Tuscan can handle..

How low is it sat?

softtop

3,142 posts

261 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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3mm wheel spacers made a world of difference.

Malcster

Original Poster:

647 posts

185 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Its not particularly low, the springs certainly have a bit of pre-load.

Hopefully the geo will make the difference. Be good to know if those setting are about right for the later setup?

Tonymg

768 posts

211 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Pck 1 thank you for getting back to me will look them up soon...

Tony...

Basil Brush

5,308 posts

277 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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Measure the bump steer and shim the rack height to get it right.