What 4x4 for £4-6k...

[harmeetjohal]

Hi all need a little help and guidance

Brought an 2009 Audi Q5 S-Line a couple of months ago... Anyway need to sell it as we doing some work on the house, looking at spending between £4-6k on a reliable 4x4, have always been a brand snob but am trying to buy with my head not heart. Anyone had or recommend any of the following or any others?

Mitsubishi Shogun
Pathfinder
Grand Cherokee
Toyota land cruiser
X5
XC90

Doesn't need to be massive but I need to be able to get the mastiff in the back and the wife doesn't want an estate
Thanks all...

[Sa Calobra]

You'll struggle to get a Land cruiser for that budget.

A 4-6k XC90? You might be spending what you want to 'save' in repairs.

Why not a RAV4, Forester?

[minghis]

A wild proposal but based on a good ownership experience some years ago - a Chevrolet Captiva. Sensible size, four wheel drive and seven seats. We had ours for 3 years and it never went wrong and did everything we asked of it. Terrible MPG but we put this down to all short journeys and the auto box.

You could do worse.

[harmeetjohal]

I will look into the Chevrolet never seen or heard of that model...
I think the Rav is a little too small and the Forster is an estate hybrid so sadly doesn't make the cut...
Would the land cruiser at that price point potentially come with slot of issues?
Thanks

[kurt535]

Just buy Jap. Anything else will be trouble.

[300bhp/ton]

kurt535 said:

Just buy Jap. Anything else will be trouble.

Spoken like utter nonsense.

[Sa Calobra]

Small for what though? The Audi is hardly anywhere near a offroader and in reality it is an estate.

My old Forester wasn't phased by either of the harsh Winters here in the north over the hills including Snake pass etc in 2010 and 2011.

[kurt535]

300bhp/ton said:

kurt535 said:

Just buy Jap. Anything else will be trouble.

Spoken like utter nonsense.

When you've finished looking down at me from the end of your dribbling nose...pray tell us all why its nonsense?

I'll just get another cup of tea too.

[300bhp/ton]

harmeetjohal said:

Hi all need a little help and guidance

Brought an 2009 Audi Q5 S-Line a couple of months ago... Anyway need to sell it as we doing some work on the house, looking at spending between £4-6k on a reliable 4x4, have always been a brand snob but am trying to buy with my head not heart. Anyone had or recommend any of the following or any others?

Mitsubishi Shogun
Pathfinder
Grand Cherokee
Toyota land cruiser
X5
XC90

Doesn't need to be massive but I need to be able to get the mastiff in the back and the wife doesn't want an estate
Thanks all...

Does mpg or spec matter?

I like Jeeps so would give a +1 to a Grand Cherokee. But this would also seem to be Freelander 2 money.

Suspect you might find a Jeep Commander in budget. Essentially the same running gear as the GC but slightly bigger body and normally well specced.

Suspect a latter model KK Cherokee or Dodge Nitro would probably suit too.

[harmeetjohal]

Spec wise looking for leather (to protect from mastiff slobber) and Bluetooth if possible although that can always be added later...
Mpg wise we had a 996 before the Q5 do as long as it's not allot worse then that which was early 20's we should be ok, we do about 250 miles a week, mixed driving
To be honest size isn't too much of an issue as long as it will get into a car park, although parking aids maybe in hand if we are looking at a tank
Next is cosmetics, moving from a Porsche to a Q5 to something cheaper I don't want something that looks too old or shouts we have suddenly hit poverty (sorry I know that sounds terrible but I'm trying to be honest) I'm a car person who uses the TVR Griffith on the weekends and is restoring a 1972 Audi 100 coupé S... And hate the why is your wife driving that when you have them... hope that helps
Thanks

[300bhp/ton]

kurt535 said:

When you've finished looking down at me from the end of your dribbling nose...pray tell us all why its nonsense?

I'll just get another cup of tea too.

Because Japanese built cars still conform to the same laws of physics and they can and do break as well. Same as vehicles from any other maker.

And you'll find many Japanese cars, like most cars these days are joint ventures with other car makers. And might not even be built in Japan anyway.

Cliff notes:

Logic & common sense.

[300bhp/ton]

harmeetjohal said:

Spec wise looking for leather (to protect from mastiff slobber) and Bluetooth if possible although that can always be added later...
Mpg wise we had a 996 before the Q5 do as long as it's not allot worse then that which was early 20's we should be ok, we do about 250 miles a week, mixed driving
To be honest size isn't too much of an issue as long as it will get into a car park, although parking aids maybe in hand if we are looking at a tank
Next is cosmetics, moving from a Porsche to a Q5 to something cheaper I don't want something that looks too old or shouts we have suddenly hit poverty (sorry I know that sounds terrible but I'm trying to be honest) I'm a car person who uses the TVR Griffith on the weekends and is restoring a 1972 Audi 100 coupé S... And hate the why is your wife driving that when you have them... hope that helps
Thanks

Just over £6k. 2009 and 53k miles. Fully loaded with a big boot.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

[kurt535]

300bhp/ton said:

kurt535 said:

When you've finished looking down at me from the end of your dribbling nose...pray tell us all why its nonsense?

I'll just get another cup of tea too.

Because Japanese built cars still conform to the same laws of physics and they can and do break as well. Same as vehicles from any other maker.

And you'll find many Japanese cars, like most cars these days are joint ventures with other car makers. And might not even be built in Japan anyway.

Cliff notes:

Logic & common sense.

Tolerances and reliability on Jap 4x4 engineering work out better. I say this having spent the best part of 10 years driving various 4x4's both in the services and privately. I've also saw for 5 years, first hand, which 4x4 worked best within the SAR community.

Take a look at the vehicles operating in the world's best stholes. No self respecting terrorist 'army' would kit up using Audis,Landrovers (total jokes), Volvos, etc. They use Jap for a reason and that reason is they don't break down anywhere near other 4x4's do. That becomes very pertinent when you think you think the good guys are on their way to get you and you need to get away quickly.

Recent kit issued to Special forces for extended operations in harsh climates is also a heavily disguised Toyota. i suspect govts have thought, can't beat 'em join 'em.

http://www.americanspecialops.com/vehicles/nstv/

So, back in the real world, for the price point and age of vehicle this person is looking at, buying anything other than Jap will equal time off road paying large bills in the repair shop. Laws of physics do indeed apply to all mechanical things, just some things are designed with better reference to them.

I'd take a Jap high miler over a low miler other 4x4 make any day of the week. Especially when it's my own money.

[300bhp/ton]

kurt535 said:

Tolerances and reliability on Jap 4x4 engineering work out better. I say this having spent the best part of 10 years driving various 4x4's both in the services and privately. I've also saw for 5 years, first hand, which 4x4 worked best within the SAR community.

Take a look at the vehicles operating in the world's best stholes. No self respecting terrorist 'army' would kit up using Audis,Landrovers (total jokes), Volvos, etc. They use Jap for a reason and that reason is they don't break down anywhere near other 4x4's do. That becomes very pertinent when you think you think the good guys are on their way to get you and you need to get away quickly.

Recent kit issued to Special forces for extended operations in harsh climates is also a heavily disguised Toyota. i suspect govts have thought, can't beat 'em join 'em.

http://www.americanspecialops.com/vehicles/nstv/

So, back in the real world, for the price point and age of vehicle this person is looking at, buying anything other than Jap will equal time off road paying large bills in the repair shop. Laws of physics do indeed apply to all mechanical things, just some things are designed with better reference to them.

I'd take a Jap high miler over a low miler other 4x4 make any day of the week. Especially when it's my own money.

Well that's still utter nonsense. However I guess we will have to wait and see if the op is a budding terrorist and will require the same truck that they do. FFS

[Ahbefive]

I agree that Japanese cars in general will give you less problems.

[Willy Nilly]

300bhp/ton said:

Well that's still utter nonsense. However I guess we will have to wait and see if the op is a budding terrorist and will require the same truck that they do. FFS

Have you ever run a Japanese car? Or Bike? Or lawn mower? Generally speaking, they just work. There are one or two twitching ring pieces in the world of tractor manufacturing because it seem Kubota have decided to start building big tractors now. The others aren't worried about another kid on the block, they're worried about another kid on the block that builds stuff that works and in the event of it not working, doesn't fob the customer off, but instead goes off and finds what stopped it working and does something about it.

[caelite]

For reliable I would go simple and Japanese. The 'comfort' 4x4s are going to have a lot more bits to go wrong. Personally for a house build a pickup would be a fantastic bet, you don't realise how nice it is having a layer of separation from your cargo until you have ran one.

For your budget my personal choice would be an L200, or Shogun Sport if you want a conventional 4x4. Hilux's are also good but demand a price premium as they are quickly snapped up by farmers and ISIS. Isuzu are solid too.

That being said a Landrover Discovery, whilst being less reliable tend to be cheaper and easier to repair.

[jmate]

If I was spending 6k I'd go with a Honda crv ex model. Alot of toys and bulletproof.

Look decent if they have the spoiler on too.

[kurt535]

No No No.

Everyone suggesting a Jap 4x4 here is clearly talking utter nonsense still.

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