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Is one human life more important than another? Does one person's death merit yards of column inches, so to speak, whereas anothers nothing at all? I think this is an important and interesting issue to discuss and seemingly my previous thread was closed because it sought to provoke discussion and thought on an interesting though with a superficially light-hearted statement. This post does not belittle the death/undeath of anybody, infact the opposite is implied through the question I am asking...
D_Mike said:
Is one human life more important than another? Does one person's death merit yards of column inches, so to speak, whereas anothers nothing at all?
Yes.
My life is considerably more important than yours.
IMO...
When there is a public figure such as the pope, his death will cause world wide vibrations. He has touched many people's lives.
So in their opinion, Yes, his life is more important than Dave in Wales.
Now if you don't like it turn over and stop reading his threads.
to that, I don't need the hassle, I'm gonna watch TV instead 
But is the pope really historically important? We have seen similar gusses about the death of the Princess of Wales (who, to put it politely, I had absoluetely zero interest in). We will see a similar sized fuss about the duture deaths of any royalty, slightly smaller (though possibly still out of proportion) brouhahas over other celebrities too. Does this reflect public opinion accurately or is it a self serving media bandwagon (we get told we are full of grief... we are... we buy papers and are full of grief... papers make more money).
Everybody has a right to die peacefully and the Pope is no different... Why does it have to be broadcast live around the world as it happens... why do we get told that there is "a great feeling of mourning" and have journalists summing up our opinions for us, telling us what they are? It's not a sensible thing to be happening in any society.
Death is a private thing, keep it that way. I don't see how I could be truly regretful and sad about the death of somebody I have never met.
Once again, no disrespect meant to anybody in this (standard moderation disclaimer).
Everybody has a right to die peacefully and the Pope is no different... Why does it have to be broadcast live around the world as it happens... why do we get told that there is "a great feeling of mourning" and have journalists summing up our opinions for us, telling us what they are? It's not a sensible thing to be happening in any society.
Death is a private thing, keep it that way. I don't see how I could be truly regretful and sad about the death of somebody I have never met.
Once again, no disrespect meant to anybody in this (standard moderation disclaimer).
Sorry Mrs Fish... I don't mean to be rude/annoying/naugty or anything, this was just an issue I was interested in discussing. I have tried to do it a more serious and respectful way this time as I assumed that was the problem with the first post I put up... If you think this isn't appropriate tell me and I'll stop posting... I don't mean to make your job (which as far as I can tell you do excellently despite) harder... If you've gone to watch TV... enjoy it 
D_Mike said:
Everybody has a right to die peacefully and the Pope is no different... Why does it have to be broadcast live around the world as it happens... why do we get told that there is "a great feeling of mourning" and have journalists summing up our opinions for us, telling us what they are? It's not a sensible thing to be happening in any society.
Death is a private thing, keep it that way. I don't see how I could be truly regretful and sad about the death of somebody I have never met.
Sadly because its a cheap "News" story , think about it it costs nothing, since i got home from work CNN has been constantly broadcasting gossip and rumour about it .
Mike
I agree that any person has the right to pass on in privacy and dignity, and I too deplore the media bandwagon that devalues this.
However this IS a man of world wide interest - more so, I would say, than mere "celebrity" or royalty. This is a man who has been the most influential pope for many generations - a man who led by example, in public and in private. He has taken his leadership all over the world (although less so in his later years as his health has failed). He has shown wit and intelligence and compassion.
I am not a catholic, but it is obvious that this is a man of great influence and historical importance.
It is right that people should be interested.
It is not right that these events should be transformed into a goulish public show...
I agree that any person has the right to pass on in privacy and dignity, and I too deplore the media bandwagon that devalues this.
However this IS a man of world wide interest - more so, I would say, than mere "celebrity" or royalty. This is a man who has been the most influential pope for many generations - a man who led by example, in public and in private. He has taken his leadership all over the world (although less so in his later years as his health has failed). He has shown wit and intelligence and compassion.
I am not a catholic, but it is obvious that this is a man of great influence and historical importance.
It is right that people should be interested.
It is not right that these events should be transformed into a goulish public show...
D_Mike said:
But is the pope really historically important? We have seen similar gusses about the death of the Princess of Wales (who, to put it politely, I had absoluetely zero interest in). We will see a similar sized fuss about the duture deaths of any royalty, slightly smaller (though possibly still out of proportion) brouhahas over other celebrities too. Does this reflect public opinion accurately or is it a self serving media bandwagon (we get told we are full of grief... we are... we buy papers and are full of grief... papers make more money).
Everybody has a right to die peacefully and the Pope is no different... Why does it have to be broadcast live around the world as it happens... why do we get told that there is "a great feeling of mourning" and have journalists summing up our opinions for us, telling us what they are? It's not a sensible thing to be happening in any society.
Death is a private thing, keep it that way. I don't see how I could be truly regretful and sad about the death of somebody I have never met.
Once again, no disrespect meant to anybody in this (standard moderation disclaimer).
People who genuinely have an interest in figure heads of society, which JP is, I guess feel very close to them. Even if they haven't met.
Being outside the Vatican or watching it on TV will give them a sense of being with the Pope when he passes on...
I wasn't with my father when he passed away. I wish I had been.
scoobz said:
Being outside the Vatican or watching it on TV will give them a sense of being with the Pope when he passes on...
Funny you should say this , i got home from work and started to watch the news on CNN , i suddenly got the urge to drive to Rome to be there !!! WTF im not religious in any way shape or form , is this some form of brain washing !!
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