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Alan Whitaker

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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Hi All.
Anybody using this type of relay from the ignition on to feed the fuse box for ignition feeds




Alan

phillpot

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205 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Not on my S Alan but have one similar on the Taimar.

Ignition switch powers that relay rather than have any load through the ignition switch

Alan Whitaker

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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Hi Mike.
The Corsa only has 2 pr of wires from the key switch and they are .5mm so only about 3 amps, both ign on and start has to go through relays, the starter only needs a supply of 10 amps so a normal 30a relay will be ok but the fuse box feeds will require quite a large relay just not sure if 100a will he enough or should I go for a Solid State type relay.

Alan

GreenV8S

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306 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Alan Whitaker said:
the starter only needs a supply of 10 amps
Starter solenoids often use a 'peak and hold' design where they draw a high current (around 30A is common) until they close, and closing the contact drops the current to an 8 - 10A holding current. If your solenoid is similar, that 30A relay will be distinctly marginal and could degrade over time. For something critical like this, I think it would be worth significantly over-rating the relay.

Alpha Omega

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131 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Using a relay of such a high rating will very likely be overkill due to most heavy consumption ignition circuits having their own switchable ignition controlled relays
It is not good practice to relay the ignition coil supplies and they are best taken directly from the ignition switch
When taking into consideration what ignition circuits are not likely to have their own relays, I get a list something like -
1) Wipers
2) Blower Motor for interior heating/cooling
3) Indicators
4) Brake Lights
5) Reverse Lights
Then I would be wiring in -
1) Wiper circuit supply relay
2) Blower Motor supply relay
3) Indicators/Brake Lights/Reverse Lights supply relay (1 relay for the 3 circuits)

Now I would be left with the ignition switch doing very little work apart from supplying the ignition coils

Alpha Omega

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131 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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I missed your above post as I was typing
Are you sure the Corsa switch hasn't got heavier terminals somewhere for coil and crank? In the back of my mind something is telling me that there are thin and thick wires that go to the ignition switch

Alan Whitaker

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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Hi.
No it's just got the 2 pr of .5mm wires the newer ones might have but not the Corsa B

Alpha Omega

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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Reference Corsa b Ignition switch wiring

fat black
black medium
black thin
black red strip
fat red
thin red

Taken from http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=45572...

Alan Whitaker

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Mine is like this


Alpha Omega

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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Ooops we keep cross posting
I can't help you then. That above link needs viewing all the way through, there is an image of a Corsa B ignition Switch with wiring
I don't understand what you have got with it being so different

Alpha Omega

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131 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Just found the above on a Google

Alpha Omega

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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I am like you have probably already done, wondering if the heavier ignition switch will fit or if an earlier switch with steering lock could be used
If you have no options but to use that small switch, as long as you are relaying everything similar to what I have posted above, you could use a standard 40 Amp relay for ignition coils supply and another for crank

Alan Whitaker

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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I think mine is off the SX adjustable type and just at the point of the change over to the Corsa C, I did see the car it came off had a body module, there might also be another switch with the larger wires, will have a look to see if there is.

Alan Whitaker

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My ECU and TCU have there own fuse box and direct battery feed. only wiring the normal feeds and starter circuits through the ignition

Alpha Omega

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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Google found this. Does it look like the electrical parts are interchangeable?

Alpha Omega

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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Alan Whitaker said:
My ECU and TCU have there own fuse box and direct battery feed. only wiring the normal feeds and starter circuits through the ignition
OK, as mentioned above, 2 x 40Amp relays to be on the safe side incase you need to add something in the future

Alan Whitaker

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Just seen that on ebay, might be worth a punt just to see if it fits

Alpha Omega

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131 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Those electrical parts do look interchangeable, perhaps a small modification is needed

Alpha Omega

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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We keep posting at the same time
Yes there is a very good chance of you being able to use the heavier switch
I must go now, good luck

Alan Whitaker

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Saturday 27th May 2017
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How's this for a relay, just found this looking for a solid state relay




It's only £ 540 inc vat. Should I get just the one or a spare as well ( they know how to charge)