996/997 supercharged V8 conversion
996/997 supercharged V8 conversion
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unclemark123

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882 posts

226 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Ok, I know this is a can of worms for some Porsche owners......but...

I am keen to purchase and convert a 996, or preferably a 997 2dw non tiptronic or PDK car to supercharged chevy power.

I realise some will say why not go Porsche turbo - and I kind of agree bar the price. Plus ultimately the Chevy unit should prove cheaper to run/maintain, and of course it has a V8 soundtrack to boot.

Has anyone carried out this conversion? I am currently looking at Renegade hybrids conversion.

I am also looking for the right car, preferably with mechanical issues or a borked engine, so if anyone can help please contact me.

Mark.

Chris Stott

17,559 posts

215 months

Steve Rance

5,453 posts

249 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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I once raced a 911 for somebody who had fitted a Cosworth V8 engine in it (or rather on it). The centre of gravity was far too high and the resultant handling issues made it uncompetitive and a real handful to drive. I understand the economic attraction of the upgrade but my experience of fitting a V8 in a 911 was not positive.

chriscoates81

482 posts

150 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Steve Rance said:
I once raced a 911 for somebody who had fitted a Cosworth V8 engine in it (or rather on it). The centre of gravity was far too high and the resultant handling issues made it uncompetitive and a real handful to drive. I understand the economic attraction of the upgrade but my experience of fitting a V8 in a 911 was not positive.
I suppose that's one of the big benefits of a boxer, lowering COG.

AshBurrows

2,579 posts

180 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Speak to Craig at Dynotorque and tell him Ash sent you. He's away until Friday I think.
I absolutely do not believe that it upsets the balance and alters the dynamics drastically at all.
Good luck!

EGTE

996 posts

200 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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But then, you will have nowhere near as much experience as Mr.Rance in driving race cars.

unclemark123

Original Poster:

882 posts

226 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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AshBurrows

2,579 posts

180 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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EGTE said:
But then, you will have nowhere near as much experience as Mr.Rance in driving race cars.
So what? Neither will 99.9% of drivers. OP doesn't mention racing either.

I'll try and borrow a stock 997 and compare back to back with Angus' to see how they compare. Old cosworth V8 is very different proposition to a LS though.

dvshannow

1,637 posts

154 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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it like a fun project but it aint gonna be troubling any regular 911 turbos first they are already very well optimised second the chassis is inherently easy to unsettle with its rear engine layout

Steve Rance

5,453 posts

249 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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From a drivers point of view the handling of the rear engined 911 is primarily resolved by the low c of g of the boxer power unit. It allows control of the car in the initial braking phase, a trail after turn in to counter understeer and an early throttle application on apex. We couldnt get any aspect of cornering to work with the V8. Later 911's have a longer wheelbase which will help slightly. Overcoming roll oversteer on turn in and on throttle on exit along with settling the rear under initial braking will be the challenges. In normal conditions of grip on the road, you may be ok. When looking to deploy power or In conditions of low grip ie the wet, even on the road the effects will be more pronounced.

Interesting challenge. I'm sure that the conversion will include some suspension/diff upgrades also




darronwall

1,730 posts

214 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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unclemark123 said:
Ok, I know this is a can of worms for some Porsche owners......but...

I am keen to purchase and convert a 996, or preferably a 997 2dw non tiptronic or PDK car to supercharged chevy power.

I realise some will say why not go Porsche turbo - and I kind of agree bar the price. Plus ultimately the Chevy unit should prove cheaper to run/maintain, and of course it has a V8 soundtrack to boot.

Has anyone carried out this conversion? I am currently looking at Renegade hybrids conversion.

I am also looking for the right car, preferably with mechanical issues or a borked engine, so if anyone can help please contact me.

Mark.
I have an early 1998 996 manual with a blown motor that could be for sale......

unclemark123

Original Poster:

882 posts

226 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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darronwall said:
I have an early 1998 996 manual with a blown motor that could be for sale......
Can you PM me the details please

EGTE

996 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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AshBurrows said:
EGTE said:
But then, you will have nowhere near as much experience as Mr.Rance in driving race cars.
So what? Neither will 99.9% of drivers. OP doesn't mention racing either.

I'll try and borrow a stock 997 and compare back to back with Angus' to see how they compare. Old cosworth V8 is very different proposition to a LS though.
So he knows quite a bit about making a car handle. Not sure how you could miss that point.

AshBurrows

2,579 posts

180 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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Ah forget it.

Edited by AshBurrows on Thursday 1st June 10:44

noneedtolift

884 posts

241 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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medieval

1,499 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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Didn't Gas Monkey do an LS conversion on a 996 cabriolet and then pitt it against a 991 turbo with the latter taking the flag with some ease from memory?

Regards

SRT Hellcat

7,178 posts

235 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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I do love my V8's but sticking one in the back of a 911. Certainly would not be my thing. You would certainly need an all alloy engine and not an iron block V8

silver surfer

480 posts

226 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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LS engines are made from an aluminium block...so should be much lighter than Porker engines.

SS

dom9

8,466 posts

227 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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Longer wheelbase, wider track, engine more in-board of the rear in the later cars and then add a light V8, cam-in-block for low CoG... The LS conversion is gaining popularity!

I still fancy a 997 + aerokit + 525bhp NA LS3 but I'm no Steve Rance!

Yellow491

3,260 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Get on and do it,you can dial most issues out race or road.what would be usefull is a short gearbox and bell housing,get the engine as far forward as you can,and as low,some of the ali block v8 are not much heavier.
What you could look out for,is a short Spyder/cup/rsr gearbox,that would help a lot,sequential all the way!
Mclaren have two very nice 911 with the tag turbo v6 in,used as test mules,they handled ok even with 1100 to 1500 bhp!