Discussion
Found this:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=40...
But thats ten years old so time for a new thread perhaps.
Prewar stuff hopefully is like brown furniture, i.e not suffering from endlessly being talked about prices*, due to supply outstripping demand.
People own them as a hobby not as an investment.
There is some nice stuff about and if i was ever going to get another car then it would be prewar.
A small lorry would be even cooler.
Anything that tickles your fancy post here!
Pre 1955 allowable I reckon too.
Or even better, show us what you have owned/own and describe the experience.
A £16k starter
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C877324
edit to add...*prices are definitely interesting, but only from an accessibility & value point of view, rather than the fact it is worth £1000 more after ten years of maintenance and repair
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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=40...
But thats ten years old so time for a new thread perhaps.
Prewar stuff hopefully is like brown furniture, i.e not suffering from endlessly being talked about prices*, due to supply outstripping demand.
People own them as a hobby not as an investment.
There is some nice stuff about and if i was ever going to get another car then it would be prewar.
A small lorry would be even cooler.
Anything that tickles your fancy post here!
Pre 1955 allowable I reckon too.
Or even better, show us what you have owned/own and describe the experience.
A £16k starter
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C877324
edit to add...*prices are definitely interesting, but only from an accessibility & value point of view, rather than the fact it is worth £1000 more after ten years of maintenance and repair
.Edited by Hugh Jarse on Tuesday 6th June 08:26
That was one of the cars on my 'possibility' list, that was untill I investigated and found it to be on Cat D insurance. I know the car would likely be very good but just couldn't get past the insurance problem, the fact is the resale and insurance issues.
Ended up with a 14/40 Humber of 1928 vintage
why do my images always appear upside down?
Ended up with a 14/40 Humber of 1928 vintage
why do my images always appear upside down?
I wouldn't worry about the Cat D on a prewar car, I reckon most cars nearing a 100 years old have been involved in some sort of accident or had serious restoration / repair work carried out at some point.
I'd be more worried about the quality of the work done, get someone who knows the marque / model well to have a look and base the decision off that.
Got one of mine out of the garage over the weekend for the first time in a couple of years to give it a good wash before starting to fix the broken back axle. (Yes I do know that the wheels are odd sizes, proper ones got borrowed for one of the other cars.)
I'd be more worried about the quality of the work done, get someone who knows the marque / model well to have a look and base the decision off that.
Got one of mine out of the garage over the weekend for the first time in a couple of years to give it a good wash before starting to fix the broken back axle. (Yes I do know that the wheels are odd sizes, proper ones got borrowed for one of the other cars.)
Hey, it's great to see a prewar thread on here.
I've only just picked up the prewar bug following my wife's acquisition of her father's 1930 Lagonda.
It's a 2 litre supercharged low chassis model and is fun and challenging to drive in equal measure, although she rarely lets me get behind the wheel and I'm usually designated as navigator
I've only just picked up the prewar bug following my wife's acquisition of her father's 1930 Lagonda.
It's a 2 litre supercharged low chassis model and is fun and challenging to drive in equal measure, although she rarely lets me get behind the wheel and I'm usually designated as navigator
Slightly off topic but still prewar related :
As you will notice in the image above, I have the steel artillery wheels which are in a bit of a poor cosmetic state. Arranging with our local wheel refurbishes to have them strip them back and powder coat gloss black. Took one of the wheels in today for the. to have a look and estimate cost, oldest wheel they have ever 'done' and I think they are looking forward to having the car in at the end of the month. Something different!!
£60 +. VAT each wheel seems reasonable. Looking forward to seeing them smartened up, but not too smart.
As you will notice in the image above, I have the steel artillery wheels which are in a bit of a poor cosmetic state. Arranging with our local wheel refurbishes to have them strip them back and powder coat gloss black. Took one of the wheels in today for the. to have a look and estimate cost, oldest wheel they have ever 'done' and I think they are looking forward to having the car in at the end of the month. Something different!!
£60 +. VAT each wheel seems reasonable. Looking forward to seeing them smartened up, but not too smart.
A993LAD said:
Hey, it's great to see a prewar thread on here.
I've only just picked up the prewar bug following my wife's acquisition of her father's 1930 Lagonda.
It's a 2 litre supercharged low chassis model and is fun and challenging to drive in equal measure, although she rarely lets me get behind the wheel and I'm usually designated as navigator
That sounds brilliant I've only just picked up the prewar bug following my wife's acquisition of her father's 1930 Lagonda.
It's a 2 litre supercharged low chassis model and is fun and challenging to drive in equal measure, although she rarely lets me get behind the wheel and I'm usually designated as navigator
. A cheeky question, it didn't come with a spare set of bonnet panels as I am after some for my project Will you lot please cut it out!
Having sold the XK150 I'm find myself increasingly drawn to adverts from a pre war Alvis and when you go around posting pictures of your lovely Lagonda and RichB tells me about his how am I supposed to resist!
Oh bugger, I'm off back to car&classic again.
I keep getting drawn to
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/alvis/12-slash...
or wondering whether SWMBO would truly kill me if I hinted at
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C837584
and if so would dying be a price worth paying?
Having sold the XK150 I'm find myself increasingly drawn to adverts from a pre war Alvis and when you go around posting pictures of your lovely Lagonda and RichB tells me about his how am I supposed to resist!
Oh bugger, I'm off back to car&classic again.
I keep getting drawn to
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/alvis/12-slash...
or wondering whether SWMBO would truly kill me if I hinted at
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C837584
and if so would dying be a price worth paying?
My old Vauxhall 20/60 which I sold last Autunm. 
Had the pleasure of this car for almost eight years, once the top end of the engine was sorted it was a great car with plenty of power. Two years ago the head gasket gave up the ghost, had a new one in solid annealed copper made and another as a spare. Then a valve spring broke but fortunately the valve springs were a double spring arrangement. New valve springs made.
Starter motor gave up so a complete refurbishment. At the end of my ownership stint I spent about 5k on repairs and the car was running beautifully when I sold it, albeit heavy smoke due to lack of valve stem seals, manufactured as such.
The new owner has fitted new valves as he found two cracked valves. Also fitted valve stem seals and is trying to run the car on waterless coolant.
Had the pleasure of this car for almost eight years, once the top end of the engine was sorted it was a great car with plenty of power. Two years ago the head gasket gave up the ghost, had a new one in solid annealed copper made and another as a spare. Then a valve spring broke but fortunately the valve springs were a double spring arrangement. New valve springs made.
Starter motor gave up so a complete refurbishment. At the end of my ownership stint I spent about 5k on repairs and the car was running beautifully when I sold it, albeit heavy smoke due to lack of valve stem seals, manufactured as such.
The new owner has fitted new valves as he found two cracked valves. Also fitted valve stem seals and is trying to run the car on waterless coolant.
Edited by crankedup on Wednesday 7th June 19:57
crankedup said:
^^^^^^^^
The Alvis 12/50 is simply beautiful, just look at the leather and dashboard. Sat in that car looking at the dashboard, lovely, and then start her up!!!!!
The larger Alvis hasn't quite got the same atmosphere for me, if I can put it that way.
Yes I understand, the doctor coupe has lovely patina, I like an old car to look it's age and be slightly lived in.The Alvis 12/50 is simply beautiful, just look at the leather and dashboard. Sat in that car looking at the dashboard, lovely, and then start her up!!!!!
The larger Alvis hasn't quite got the same atmosphere for me, if I can put it that way.
On the other hand I do like 6 cylinder engines.
I need to do more research and read my Alvis books to get a better idea of what's what.
bsaa7 said:
That sounds brilliant . A cheeky question, it didn't come with a spare set of bonnet panels as I am after some for my project
No, sorry I can't help I'm afraid. And I suspect original bonnet panels are probably in short supply. Although their construction is pretty basic so I imagine it wouldn't be difficult for someone to fabricate copies. Is your project based around an original Lagonda? If so sure a shout out to the Lagonda club would give you a good steer on any likely sources for originals or suitable contacts for securing copies.. A cheeky question, it didn't come with a spare set of bonnet panels as I am after some for my project A993LAD said:
No, sorry I can't help I'm afraid. And I suspect original bonnet panels are probably in short supply. Although their construction is pretty basic so I imagine it wouldn't be difficult for someone to fabricate copies. Is your project based around an original Lagonda? If so sure a shout out to the Lagonda club would give you a good steer on any likely sources for originals or suitable contacts for securing copies.
Its a bit of a mongrel. 1932 SS2 chassis, Wolseley hornet 12 drums/rear axle,1948 2.8 litre studebaker straight six sidevalve engine. The body matches the dimensions of a pre war lagonda 2 litre but with it being shortened and of course no bonnet panels. Its prob a copy but it is a ally skin over wood frame and wooden dash.I tried the club/forum and no replies and not much action of the forum seems quiet
a8hex said:
crankedup said:
^^^^^^^^
The Alvis 12/50 is simply beautiful, just look at the leather and dashboard. Sat in that car looking at the dashboard, lovely, and then start her up!!!!!
The larger Alvis hasn't quite got the same atmosphere for me, if I can put it that way.
Yes I understand, the doctor coupe has lovely patina, I like an old car to look it's age and be slightly lived in.The Alvis 12/50 is simply beautiful, just look at the leather and dashboard. Sat in that car looking at the dashboard, lovely, and then start her up!!!!!
The larger Alvis hasn't quite got the same atmosphere for me, if I can put it that way.
On the other hand I do like 6 cylinder engines.
But, as you say, the 6 cyl engine and those wonderful huge headlamps and general styling/looks on the 2nd car one would make it too hard to resist for me.
aeropilot said:
Tough choice.....and I agree the history/patina on the Doc Coupe would make it a very desirable car....
But, as you say, the 6 cyl engine and those wonderful huge headlamps and general styling/looks on the 2nd car one would make it too hard to resist for me.
The headlights are the only thing that I don't love about the looks of the doctor coupe, they look, to me at least, like more modern small units inside the original larger housings. It probably means that they can be used to see at night, but they don't look quite right. But, as you say, the 6 cyl engine and those wonderful huge headlamps and general styling/looks on the 2nd car one would make it too hard to resist for me.
A bit like the Panther J72 (Mock pre-war style Jag, not quite like an SS100) I remember as a teenage.
a8hex said:
Will you lot please cut it out!
I keep getting drawn to
12/50 TJ DHC or Speed 20 SC DHC.
To my mind they are both a bit over bodied PVTs... I keep getting drawn to
12/50 TJ DHC or Speed 20 SC DHC.
I'm lucky to have a vintage 12/50 TE Sports Tourer and my BiL has a well sorted SB Speed20 VdP Tourer.
The Speed 20 has syncro-mesh and is happy in the outer lane of the M3.
The 12/50 has a crash box and both have central throttles.
the 12/50 can keep up with the lorries in the inner lane of the M3, but B roads are nicer.
From Bucks, I'd suggest you pop up to Bicester Heritage - the owner has a similar SC Speed 20 and a few 12/50, including a SD Beetleback.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-37...
Traders Mark Elder, Robert Glover and his BiL Martin @ CPE next door all are experienced Alvis guys.
Although the danger is you might get seduced by Kingsbury Racing.... and Green Lorries.
bsaa7 said:
I tried the club/forum and no replies and not much action of the forum seems quiet
The forum is quiet but there's a thriving FaceBook group - search for Lagonda Owners Group. Bonnet panels do come up from time to time on eBay and if people know you're looking you're more likely to get a tip off about some. 
RichB said:
The forum is quiet but there's a thriving FaceBook group - search for Lagonda Owners Group. Bonnet panels do come up from time to time on eBay and if people know you're looking you're more likely to get a tip off about some.
Yes I saw a lot of bonnets etc a couple of years back on ebay. Didn't have the cash at the time but convinced myself they would always be on there. Wrong. One ebay advert was actually three sets that went for £100. Buggerations. I have requested joining the facebook group thanks for the heads up Gassing Station | Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff