AHM twin plate clutch conversion

[myredvantage]

My 2006 4.3 vantage clutch went yesterday & im looking to get the clutch replaced with the AHM kit, can anyone advise me how much this kit would cost approx also would this be a better solution than having the ordinary aston clutch fitted, all help is appreciated before i decide.

[Jon39]

As you will know, because of the rear gearbox configuration, it is a much longer job to do a clutch change.
I think the total cost is probably between £2000 and £3000.

Therefore the extra for a twinplate is modest compared to the overall job.

A twinplate will give you a much lighter pedal, and it should last longer.

[leerandle]

Definitely go for the twin plate (and lightened flywheel). Like previous post, cost is mostly labour so get the twin plate clutch kit. There are some good indies that will be able to do it for you or main AM dealers if you want to pay their prices.

My clutch was replaced just before I bought my car and wish it had got the twin plate clutch.

[rovcallum]

I was quoted £3500 a few weeks ago by a reputable indie for the twin plate clutch & light flywheel conversion.
The cost seemed a bit steep but it should last a lot longer than the original setup and its apparently a lot lighter/easier to use.
I'll hopefully get a few thousand more miles out of mine yet.

[bogie]

I had the latest OE clutch fitted on my old 2006 coupe, I intended to trade the car in 12 months later. It was really light in comparison to the original clutch.

I guess if you are going to keep the car and do another 50-100k miles in it, then its a no brainer to fit the twin plate

[AdamV12V]

I suggest you might want to wait for the official AMR Twin Clutch to be fully announced in a week or so - see separate thread here

It's likely to be about the same price I suspect, and it's the official OEM Aston Martin (Racing) upgrade, not an aftermarket jobby that may affect residual values.

http://www.astonmartin.com/accessories/amr-perform...

[HBradley]

AdamV12V said:

I suggest you might want to wait for the official AMR Twin Clutch to be fully announced in a week or so - see separate thread here

It's likely to be about the same price I suspect, and it's the official OEM Aston Martin (Racing) upgrade, not an aftermarket jobby that may affect residual values.

http://www.astonmartin.com/accessories/amr-perform...

Whilst the price of the kit might be similar, you can be sure the cost of fitting it will be substantially higher!
The clutch unit supplied & fitted by the indies is exactly the same as fitted to the V12VS. No 'Halford' parts there!

[AdamV12V]

HBradley said:

Whilst the price of the kit might be similar, you can be sure the cost of fitting it will be substantially higher!
The clutch unit supplied & fitted by the indies is exactly the same as fitted to the V12VS. No 'Halford' parts there!

I think that largely depends on how much of a rip off your local dealer is. You shouldn't tar them all with the same muddy brush - they are not all as expensive as you think.

Aside from that, are we sure the AMR V8 twin clutch is just the V12VS clutch?

If not then, even if its an OEM part, it's not the same thing as having the OEM AMR V8 twin clutch. It may give the same end result, but its not the same as have the OEM solution IMHO.

If it is then fair enough, but then it comes down to your opinion on if you want your car to have a full main dealer history or are happy with an indie working on it.

[V8V Pete]

I would definitely go twin plate with lightened flywheel. Will cost a bit more but IMHO the advantages massively outweigh this unless you plan on selling the car tomorrow.

Lighter pedal
No clutch judder
Improved throttle response so rev matched down changes and heel & toe easier/smoother
Longer life
Easier reversing and stop/start traffic driving

Happy to demo mine to you but I suspect you're in the south whereas I'm in the Midlands. Or test drive a V12V as virtually the same as these although different flywheel.

[alan powley]

Just call mike at bamford rose he will sort it out and save you money .

[JohnG1]

AdamV12V said:

I suggest you might want to wait for the official AMR Twin Clutch to be fully announced in a week or so - see separate thread here

It's likely to be about the same price I suspect, and it's the official OEM Aston Martin (Racing) upgrade, not an aftermarket jobby that may affect residual values.

http://www.astonmartin.com/accessories/amr-perform...

Is the "Aston Martin Racing" twin-plate clutch an actual racing clutch? Since race car clutches are not easy to use in regular road usage (stop/start traffic and reversing up a hill as two examples). I would not want a racing clutch in a road car.

Since AML don't make clutches (they are bought in) the question I would ask is - who makes the Aston Martin V8 twin-plate clutch versus the existing V12V twin-plate clutch versus whoever else is in the market?

[AdamV12V]

JohnG1 said:

Is the "Aston Martin Racing" twin-plate clutch an actual racing clutch? Since race car clutches are not easy to use in regular road usage (stop/start traffic and reversing up a hill as two examples). I would not want a racing clutch in a road car.

Since AML don't make clutches (they are bought in) the question I would ask is - who makes the Aston Martin V8 twin-plate clutch versus the existing V12V twin-plate clutch versus whoever else is in the market?

I very very much doubt it is actually a racing clutch, but you would have to call them to be sure. Don't forget AMR (actual race cars aside) is just a brand for these performance accessories, and it's still really AML under the skin. If it really was a racing clutch I would expect it to be branded as "AMR Pro" - but I am not aware of any AMR Pro accessories.

Edited by AdamV12V on Friday 9th June 16:06

[telum01]

The AMR kit is going to be the same as others already on the market: V12 clutch, lightweight flywheel (I've already seen this flywheel in person - last year on the back of a GT4's engine), and slave cylinder.

Here's more info that I posted on 6speed earlier today:

If the info I just received stays true:
-Expected release date is the end of June.
-Kits include clutch, flywheel, and slave cylinder (if not included by the factory, I'll be adding in the miscellaneous bolts and whatnot).
-Pricing is going to be extremely competitive.
-A new torque tube is needed for MY14+ cars due to a change in the design of a spacer. AML offers a core exchange for this along with a modest upcharge. Not required for MY13 and earlier.

On one hand, I'm surprised an AMR-branded part is going to be reasonably priced. But on the other hand it isn't a surprise that Aston is using this as an opportunity to reinforce the reputation of these cars (weak point is the clutch, *boom* here's the fix).

[jonby]

AdamV12V said:

JohnG1 said:

Is the "Aston Martin Racing" twin-plate clutch an actual racing clutch? Since race car clutches are not easy to use in regular road usage (stop/start traffic and reversing up a hill as two examples). I would not want a racing clutch in a road car.

Since AML don't make clutches (they are bought in) the question I would ask is - who makes the Aston Martin V8 twin-plate clutch versus the existing V12V twin-plate clutch versus whoever else is in the market?

I very very much doubt it is actually a racing clutch, but you would have to call them to be sure. Don't forget AMR (actual race cars aside) is just a brand for these performance accessories, and it's still really AML under the skin. If it really was a racing clutch I would expect it to be branded as "AMR Pro" - but I am not aware of any AMR Pro accessories.

Edited by AdamV12V on Friday 9th June 16:06

There will be three sections to the AMR sub brand going forward - AMR Pro, AMR and AMR accessories

As you say, these are AML parts using the AMR sub branding, as opposed to Aston Martin Racing the motorsport company

Full details including pricing will be revealed very soon (days not weeks)

[HBradley]

AdamV12V said:

I very very much doubt it is actually a racing clutch, but you would have to call them to be sure. Don't forget AMR (actual race cars aside) is just a brand for these performance accessories, and it's still really AML under the skin.

Edited by AdamV12V on Friday 9th June 16:06

I agree, race clutches tend to be 'sintered', which is much harder wearing, but also very much 'on or off'! Mike at BR recommended the normal (Organic) clutch for a road car as it is more progressive. Also sintered doesn't work with SS.

[myredvantage]

Very much appreciate all your help guys as I only do around 3000 miles per year & only use on the road rather than track I will be going for the twin plate & with the advantages this gives I will be happy with this, just waiting for the quotes, the car is with an independant who specialises in astons here in kent I had a service done by them last year & found them very competitive against the main dealerships.

[GT1 Builder]

Hi

Also looking for a twin plate clutch when mine eventually gives out.

Do you mind me asking who the indie is that you use in Kent, as I am also in Kent and it would be good to find a more local recommended indie?

Thanks

Mike

[myredvantage]

Hi mike,

Performance cars
broadoak road
canterbury,

google their website

phil.

[drac]

It's worth asking the dealer about the AMR clutch. I did and I was pleasantly surprised. It's ordered and hopefully will be fitted towards end of July.

My clutch seem to be working ok but it's just so heavy. If I get caught in traffic it's a real pain after the first 5 mins.

[GingerMunky]

I opted for the David Appleby Engineering (DAE) dual clutch and lighten flywheel. Nearly 10k miles and it feels superb. Great service too