My 2010 Chevrolet Camaro Bumblebee

My 2010 Chevrolet Camaro Bumblebee

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Paul O

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Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Here it is, the latest addition to the fleet: A 2010 Chevrolet Camaro!



I’ve loved the design of these cars ever since the world was woken up to the concept in the 2007 Transformers movie. At the time I remember thinking “I really hope they make that car!” Whilst the design is now getting on for a decade old for those in the USA, in the UK these cars are still incredibly rare and therefore still look pretty fresh over here. Unless you are at an event with an American or movie related theme, the chances of seeing one on the road are minimal.

The Purchase
I have been looking to purchase a new sports car for some time now - I’m going to be 40 years old this year, so a bit of a present to myself I suppose (midlife crisis? I’ve been having those since my 20’s). Initially I was looking for another Boxster (987 model, still on the to-do list), but after several months I haven’t been able to find one with the spec and colour that I was after, within an acceptable distance of my home and at a price I was willing to pay.

As a car nerd, part of every daily routine involves searching the internet for my next possible car and I happened to do an eBay search on the Camaro. A Camaro does indeed have a legitimate entry on my ‘to own’ list, but previous cars for sale have either not been the correct colour, or too expensive. But, to my excitement, a yellow car was now available for sale, in the UK. It also had the black stripe and silver wheels, replicating the first concept car that was BumbleBee in that first Transformers film.

This car is a complete step away from everything I’ve bought before. Its left-hand drive for a start and an import. I slept on this idea for a few nights, and both occasions I woke up with my first thought being that I desperately wanting to buy the car. I told my wife who was sceptical to start with, until she saw one in the metal at a car show the following weekend and thought they actually looked quite nice.

It turns out that the seller of the car that was ultimately to become mine is someone who I’ve known from the past, when I used to go to meets for those who loved Knight Rider replicas. He remembered me too, when back at the first KR meet, I parked my old Boxster in the middle of all the KITT cars for a photo. A mutual acquaintance also vouched for both the seller and the car, which made me much more confident about buying it. After conversations with the owner, a week followed before a road trip could be organised with a couple of mates who know far more than I do about mechanical stuff to go and see the car.

A few hours later, I was driving home in my new Bumblebee Camaro!

The Drive Home
This was a real exciting experience. Having not driven left-hookers before, it was to be a new lesson in driving – and part of the attraction for buying this car, I’d have to really concentrate on the actual aspect of driving. One of my friends accompanied me in the car and being on the right-hand-side of the car was able to gauge where I was on the road as if he was the driver. I’d recommend doing this for anyone who’s thinking of doing the same as for the first few miles I’d get the instruction “you’re a bit too far over” or “you need to be more on your side”. These minor adjustments helped me with the unfamiliarity of the driving position and prevent me from panning it on the first go. After the two hour drive home, I was more or less sorted with where the car needed to be placed on the roads. That said, I do need to check my mirrors a lot more, just to be sure – but that’s all part of the ‘driving’ experience. There is nothing autonomous when I’m behind the wheel here – it’s an active participant role.

As for the performance and noise, more on that in a future update as I’ve been driving pretty boring whilst I get myself sorted with the left-hooker thing.

My Car

This car was originally a Florida car and had two owners before being imported to the UK last year with around 62,000 miles on the clock. The guy who imported it was in the States for a while beforehand and liked these cars, but upon importing to the UK didn’t like the attention it received and so sold it on to the guy who I bought it from.

I purchased a CarFax report (like a HPI over here, but much more detailed) which came back clean, and then a HPI for the UK element which was also clear. Happy days!

This is a 3.6 V6 model, so the ‘baby’ of the range, but it’s still got plenty of poke with 0-60 coming in around six seconds – and having back seats means it’s a family car, rather than just a solo thing. But the colour was one of the main deciding factors to buy.

The interior is the standard cloth affair and it has an automatic gearbox. These days I prefer autos plus I didn’t fancy a LHD manual car as my first foray into other-side driving. It has a sports option on the gearbox and you can use the flappy-paddles on the wheel. It’s not PDK dual-clutch rapid, but it seems pretty keen on the downshifts and compares favourably to my Tiptronic Cayenne.

Why A Camaro?
As mentioned, this was an entirely new car experience for me. I know nothing at all about Camaros. Before buying the car, I didn’t know where to get them serviced, how to get a USA-HPI done, what things that might go wrong with the car and I’ve never driven LHD up until that point. All of that put together made this an exciting and interesting prospect. It is a car that I’m going to have to research, get to know new forums, local specialists etc – all the things I’ve got nailed for the Porsches that I’ve owned over the past decade, I’d be starting again with this.

And, it is a car on my to-own list. It is also different, and a bit daft.

To-do
  • The car is in good condition, but I like to have my cars well-cleaned when I buy them. So it’s off to my detailer soon!
  • Fix tyre pressure sensors. These are broken (there is a story behind this for a future update).
  • Found out more stuff about them – servicing intervals etc.
  • Leather interior? Maybe! We’ll see. Quite liking the more practical fabric to be honest.
  • Personalised Number Plate.
Lots more to come on the ownership experience on this one. I’m excited about this car and I’m looking forward to documenting the experience.

Hope you enjoy too!


Edited by Cloudy147 on Sunday 6th December 17:45


Edited by Cloudy147 on Sunday 25th June 00:10

Maty

1,233 posts

214 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Good choice! I agree they still look "mean" even 10 years on.

I know what you mean about driving big American left hookers over here. Father in law owns this and I drove it to a car show at weekend. The passenger side mirror is useless and the only way to gauge it was to make sure I was as close to the kerb as I dared.

This is more like boating rather than driving though 😄 Had a few 'uh oh' moments on some narrow roads but weirdly enough people seemed to move for the big Buick.

Enjoy!



What's the quality of the interior bits like?

tortop45

434 posts

161 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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The Drive Home
This was a real exciting experience. Having not driven left-hookers before, it was to be a new lesson in driving – and part of the attraction for buying this car, I’d have to really concentrate on the actual aspect of driving. One of my friends accompanied me in the car and being on the right-hand-side of the car was able to gauge where I was on the road as if he was the driver. I’d recommend doing this for anyone who’s thinking of doing the same as for the first few miles I’d get the instruction “you’re a bit too far over” or “you need to be more on your side”. These minor adjustments helped me with the unfamiliarity of the driving position and prevent me from panning it on the first go. After the two hour drive home, I was more or less sorted with where the car needed to be placed on the roads. That said, I do need to check my mirrors a lot more, just to be sure – but that’s all part of the ‘driving’ experience. There is nothing autonomous when I’m behind the wheel here – it’s an active participant role.


Yes got to agree as ive got one of these cars to,i find the hardest part when driving my camaro is when your in the out side lane you can,t judge where the front wheel is in relation to the out side edge of the motor way at speed and ive had yanks for years.

Paul O

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184 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Maty said:
What's the quality of the interior bits like?
Nasty! Lol. Think 10 year old Corsa plastics. But acres of the stuff - Camaro is wider (and longer!) than the Cayenne!

Buick looks ace by the way! Love that!

chryslerben

1,175 posts

160 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Very nice Camaro you've got there mate, if I can offer some advice keep an eye or rather an ear on the timing chains they have a reputation of stretching and rattling. I just changed a set on a CTS 3.6 (there's 3) causes a little rough running.

Paul O

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Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Thanks for the replies everyone! ChyslerBen - thanks for the tip, I'll get that checked out at the next service.

UPDATE 1 - The Garage Test

Loving this car so far. Its great fu, and having the back seats means we can use it for families days out too. More on driving adventures and the attention grabbing nature of this car, in a future update.

In this update however, it's time for a garage test! The Camaro is a very big car with dimensions similar to that of my Porsche Cayenne. I live in a new-build type house with an integral garage and, like all single integral garages on pretty much any house built in the last 20 years in the UK, they aren't generous with their space.

The typical size of a UK garage is 2.4m x 4.9m (and is true of mine also.)
The Camaro dimensions are 1.92m wide by 4.8m long and the mirrors don't fold in either.

That gives an interior space of less than half a meter wide and 10cm length to spare! Before buying the car, I measured everything several times and the answers were always the same: in theory, the car would fit, but it would be immensely tight. I decided that in all likelihood it would have to live outside, thinking that it is unlikely to be a particular target for thieves, being a rare bright yellow left-hand-drive car. So to keep it from prying eyes I bought a cheap outdoor cover to keep it hidden until I'd tried it in the garage.

That day came a few weeks ago when, with the assistance of my good lady wife, I reversed it into the garage. Easily did it with literally a few centimeters on either side as the mirrors went past the garage entrance, parking sensors flat lining continually in my ears. Finally through the door, the front is narrower than the back and Mrs Paul O guided me to within an inch of the back wall.

The result?




It fits!!!

The width of the car at the door section is actually no wider than that of a Porsche 911 (which I have owned previously and fits in the garage without a problem). Despite what the photo above suggests, once it is in the garage, its pretty easy to get out - although because I'm reversing in I have to get out of the passenger side. Thankfully its pretty roomy in the Camaro so that's not too arduous, even for my 6'4" frame. There is no way I'd be able to get it in the garage myself though as the entrance width and overall length is so tight, so its a team effort. All part of the fun of ownership, eh! As for the length there is perhaps 2-3" to spare at the front and back, so not as roomy as that first photo looks at the front.



But I was absolutely overjoyed that I can keep it safe and secure in the garage - it literally made my night! So far in that garage I've had a 911, Cayman, VW Beetle, Audi S5, Ferrari 360 (cabriolet - doors too wide to open without the roof down) and now the Camaro.

So if anyone tells you they can't get their car in a modern garage, you can tell them they are talking bullst because your mate Paul O gets his Camaro in there, "and that's a big as a Porsche 4x4, don't you know"**. biggrin


** Caveat this with the common denominator that all of these cars have frameless doors, which I suspect is a big advantage

Edited by Cloudy147 on Sunday 6th December 17:46

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

189 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Very cool. A little "sheep in wolfs' clothing" IMO, but this is more about how it looks and makes you feel than how it "goes". It'll still be faster than all-but the management-level diesel repmobiles on the road!

With the garage, you could look to line the walls with Corex material. Usually cheap from a builders merchants or Homebase will happily sell you some at inflated cost. My dad has an Elise 111S and whilst it's smaller you need a fair bit of room to actually get out of the thing - especially with the roof on. He's lined the walls about 3 layers deep, around where the car is widest and the doors open. This should stop any unwanted door dings into the cast wall! Cheap and effective. Looks Good too, especially if you can get white corex or the clear stuff and use fixings with caps rather than nailing it on...

Paul O

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Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Maintaining it:
Detailed!



A few weeks ago I took it to Tony Spears (Autoshine Specialist Detailing) for a quick mini-detail. The car was nice and clean, but it wasn't perfect, so I wanted it to have a good refresh by a pro. I didn't have a paint correction done, but a good clean, polish and interior clean. It looks great! Interestingly the car has some curious paint spots, they look like stone chips in a circle shape and there are several all over the car. You can't see them from a few feet away, but up close they are noticeable. I asked tony about these, and he informed me that they are the results of the car being egged at some point in its life! He went on to say that the when the eggs shells break they crack the paint as well, resulting in these odd stone-chip circles.







MOT Time
The annual test was due by the end of Saturday, so it was booked in for Monday and duly passed with flying colours. Very happy with that, always a little nerve racking the first time under ones ownership that a car gets sent off for its inspection. Thankfully, it appears nothing untoward with this car which is great news.



Next in the maintenance world will be a service at the Chevrolet specialists over in Stockport.

Driving it:
Like attention? This car grabs it in spades. I've driven a lot of wonderfully exotic machinery, but nothing to date has the attention grabbing abilities of the Camaro in the UK. These are rare sights on the roads over here - plus it is bright yellow - and it looks like a car from the movies. Its certainly a stand-out car. But the best thing about it is that it makes people smile. Everywhere. No hand gestures, no swearing, just great big smiles. Kids do a double-take with the mouths wide open, even wives nudge their husbands and point at it.

Performance wise, the car is used almost exclusively for family days out at the moment, so the power is barely tapped into, but I have noticed that the downshifts are very keen and there is plenty of acceleration power, even in this V6 model. Compared to my Porsche Cayenne V6, the Camaro is more keen with its shifts and makes for a smoother ride, whereas the Cayenne is a bit notchy by comparison.

I'm also used to driving LHD now, which didn't take half as long as I thought. It's pretty easy, the only caution is on very tight roads. A few weeks ago I was passing by a school. The yummy mummy's were parked on both sides of the road, leaving a small access to get cars through. I had to squeeze through and much of that was sheer luck when a car decided to come the other way rather than waiting for me to get through. I must have been inches away from it. But that aside, its pretty easy and there are no blind spots in the mirrors which is excellent!

I was thinking of maybe setting this up as a wedding hire type business, as I guess there may be some interest in such a car? I think I'll attend a few comic-conventions with it and see what the take up is. Maybe see if it can pay its own way? I've not looked into the costs of such a venture though, but no rush on that front.

And Finally...
I don't think this car park was big enough, nor empty enough for this BMW who had to park next to me. Sigh...



Edited by Cloudy147 on Sunday 6th December 18:00

Paul O

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Saturday 16th December 2017
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Pimping out the Bee

I have mentioned in a previous post that I thought it might be worth investigating whether or not to use the Camaro as a hire car for static displays, such as Comic Conventions. I had also considered weddings too, but the insurance is an issue with my current provider – and the cost to change is more than £300, which makes it unfeasible given how often the Camaro would likely get any business. If anyone knows of any companies who can offer a wedding insurance service on a pay-as-you-go basis, please let me know – I’d appreciate it.

Anyhow, as for the static displays, I attended my first show last month, taking the Camaro to a Comic Convention. I thought it would be a great opportunity to meet other movie car owners and learn the ropes of the business as well as build up a contact base - whilst allowing other enthusiasts to view and share in the enjoyment the car, as these cars still remain pretty rare over here in the UK.

This was a great event and one that I thoroughly enjoyed. I also met up with a few good contacts, so much so that the Camaro has now been added to the fleet of a movie car hire company. Hurrah!

Here is a picture of my bee, alongside a fully transformed bee - and Prime! smile




Edited by Cloudy147 on Sunday 6th December 17:48

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

216 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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I like it and your write ups.

Garage fit is cosy and I second getting wall lined. I speak from the other end of the scale with an elderly mother who has a Ka breaking its way out of the side of the garage biggrin

Paul O

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Saturday 16th December 2017
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Six Fiend said:
I like it and your write ups.

Garage fit is cosy and I second getting wall lined. I speak from the other end of the scale with an elderly mother who has a Ka breaking its way out of the side of the garage biggrin
Thanks Six, appreciate the feedback smile

Yeah, the parking is still quite a challenge and some wall lining might not be a bad idea. The mirrors don't help as they have a weird convex about them, which is great for blind spots, but it makes it very hard to line up when reversing into a tight garage on a slight angle. When looking in the mirror, it appears like you have maybe a few inches or so from the wall as you reverse through the entrance, but when you look back, there is actually much less than that! haha. So it does take a few goes.

Here's a picture from the front of the car as I go in and out of the garage. This is the passenger side, with the gap on the drivers side of maybe 1-2cm. Tiiiiiight!




mattman

3,176 posts

223 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Been lucky enough to wangle a free upgrade of my rental from the usual econobox to a Camaro on 2 occasions in the last 6 months - both bumblebee yellow

Awesome cars - SS was the most fun I've had in a car for years - would love one over here but not sure about the LHD

First one was the 6.4 SS


Which left its mark on many roads smile


Just a few weeks ago it was the V6 RS but convertible this time

Paul O

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Sunday 17th December 2017
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Very nice, Matt! They are great fun and I think they are a great looking car.

LHD drive is fine once you've done it for a few days. There are a few occasions where you need to be careful - some junctions for example when turning left. If the road design is like a bit of a slip road where you angle more in the direction of travel, then it's difficult to see. The solution is to be square on at a junction and it's fine.

The only other problem I've encountered being LHD is barriers in car parks where you need to take a ticket from a machine. Passengers are required. Lol.

For a weekend fun car, LHD isn't really an inhibitor and now I've had one I wouldn't object to another. Bonus being that they are cheaper too! smile

vincegail

2,466 posts

156 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Nice car, Paul! And nice parking too. Reminded me of this guy parking his 1m49 wide Fiat Panda in his 1m55 wide garage. Ever seen this? (in Dutch, but clip itself is still very funny)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZvnH0zADA

Paul O

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Sunday 17th December 2017
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vincegail said:
Nice car, Paul! And nice parking too. Reminded me of this guy parking his 1m49 wide Fiat Panda in his 1m55 wide garage. Ever seen this? (in Dutch, but clip itself is still very funny)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZvnH0zADA
Haha! Thanks Vince. Yeah I've seen that Panda video - it's always in my mind when I park the Camaro. When I was considering a wide car, the Panda video was actually my inspiration should the doors not open! I was actually considering to put a side door into the garage, thereby giving a little more width upon entry and exit! And should I ever get a bigger car, that's still the plan. So I'd consider the Panda guy a bit of an idea legend in my head hehe!!

Paul O

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Saturday 10th February 2018
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January Update

New Watch!

Just a bit of fun this, but I asked for (and received!) this new watch for Christmas! To understand its relevance, here is a pic of my Camaro dashboard:



And here is my new watch!!!! biggrin


Paul O

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Saturday 10th February 2018
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Service Time (February)

The car is now due a service. It has been two years and 10,000 miles since the last one. These cars are due to be serviced annually, so in terms of time it looks late, however I'm sure it was serviced when it arrived in the UK but i just cannot find the receipt. Never mind, its still being done to mileage, with the intention of doing this annually from now, and my search for a service centre began. It turns out there is an American specialist who services all kinds of old-and-new USA stuff not too far from me called Cas Am. Happy days! The alternative was a Chevrolet specialist in Manchester but this is a fair way and my research showed that the local place does have a well respected reputation so I thought I'd try them. I gave them a call and they sounded like the knew their stuff, so I booked the Camaro in.

Their workshop was pretty cool, with all kinds of American cars in the workshop. They completed a major service on the Camaro for just £245 and gave it a full check over, reporting that it was pretty much good-as-new underneath, with brakes and tyres all having plenty of life left in them. The oil was definitely ready for servicing so I'm told, so it was good to get this done.

Whilst my car does have a very full and comprehensive history, it doesn't have a service book - they don't appear to have ever been produced (I don't think the traditional service stamp stuff of the UK is typical in USA as they have the more comprehensive Carfax system). So I've purchased a generic book from eBay and the workshop has said to call down with it and they'll stamp it up. So I can now start building up a UK stamped history. Hurrah!
Interestingly, the workshop is also able to source parts (a side arm of the business) and they can fit whatever I need and have experience of this. I'm thinking front foglights to bring the appearance to SS spec on the front, and a closer replica of Bumblebee from 2007 Transformers. Watch this space!

A few pics of the service...







And that Watch...?

It lasted a month and the pin has now fallen out of the strap. You get what you pay for I guess.. £13 frown


Edited by Cloudy147 on Sunday 6th December 17:51

skeeterm5

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189 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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Check this out as a solution to your garage challenge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGfMQJuQ1NI

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Paul O

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Saturday 10th February 2018
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skeeterm5 said:
Check this out as a solution to your garage challenge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGfMQJuQ1NI

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Ooooof! Thanks Skeeterm! That looks very interesting indeed.

Shame their website doesn't actually work, but I'll keep investigating!

Mr Tidy

22,395 posts

128 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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Fantastic looking car OP! thumbup

I'm guessing you aren't shy. laugh