Gremlins in a Zafira Engine
Gremlins in a Zafira Engine
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sdoolan

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109 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Hi All,

So I've got the strangest problem I'm trying to sort out for my dad with his Zafira A. He's got a 2004 Zafira A with a z16xe engine. The problem is that quite often it seems to be idling erratically. It will sit around the 500-600RPM mark quite happily one minute and the next it will bounce all round the place, 300-1000RPM. Never seems to stall though and from what he tells me it does it more when the cars hot (I've seen it do it both hot and cold). Also when it's idling erratically it feels like it's down on power pulling away, but only when it's misbehaving. When its idling ok it pulls just fine.

The whole thing seemed to start when the car threw out a front lambda sensor error. Since then we've changed Front Lambda, Rear Lambda, had an exhaust section changed that had a hole, flushed the engine of oil and coolant and replaced with manufacturer spec fluids. Changed the oil filter, fuel filter, spark plugs and the coil pack was changed a few months ago. They weren't manufacturer parts but were recommended Bosch and NGK parts.

In addition I've stripped the throttle body off the car and completely cleaned it out, including the little hole that gets bunged up. I've also checked all the air hoses for leaks and (I know its bad) checked for rev changes with some spray round the engine when running. Nothing comes up bad. The throttle body was pretty dirty but its spotless now and it still idles erratically when it feels like it.

Couple of extra bits, it doesn't have a mass airflow sensor it's only got a MAP sensor and it doesn't have an EGR valve, its blanked off. On the "check everything" list the oil was free from mayo before the change so hopefully lowers the chance of something like a head gasket or head crack. This thing has got me completely stumped, any ideas?

It's got just shy of 100,000 miles on it but its been driven pretty sensibly since he got it at around 20,000. The best part is the mechanic that MOT's both our cars is stumped too. His latest suggestion is run it on Premium Petrol, but can't see it being a fuel problem with a brand new fuel filter?

Any help appreciated.

GreenV8S

30,956 posts

301 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Being down on power points to a misfire or tuning problem. This could well be the cause of erratic idling too, since the idle speed control will be designed based on the performance characteristics of a healthy engine.

SHutchinson

2,187 posts

201 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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This blanked off EGR valve?

Anyway, sounds like a typical Vauxhall issue with a MAF sensor. As yours has a MAP sensor I'd try a known good one of those.

sdoolan

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109 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Thanks for the info. I'll try a MAP sensor first as its cheap and easy, but I guess it would be worth picking up some OPCOM kit to look into the health of the engine.