Alternatives to run flats
Discussion
I switched from RFTs on a 335i, so a similarly powered car to yours. It wore 19s and in 2015 I thought the Michelin Pilot Super Sports were excellent.
After swapping to winters and using 17s , I kept them on and found the newer Michelin Pilot Sport 4 even better.
I've a M3 now and it came with the Conyinental 5P which is the one for performance cars 19s and up. They were good but as otherwise , I've never got on with continental , I've gone for the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S; too new to tell how good.
But I'm confident as it's been an upward trend since the supersports in 2015.
After swapping to winters and using 17s , I kept them on and found the newer Michelin Pilot Sport 4 even better.
I've a M3 now and it came with the Conyinental 5P which is the one for performance cars 19s and up. They were good but as otherwise , I've never got on with continental , I've gone for the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S; too new to tell how good.
But I'm confident as it's been an upward trend since the supersports in 2015.
Sunnyone said:
I've finally had it with run flats and I'm looking to change all the tyres on my 535d. Any recommendations? I already have winter tyres if that makes a difference.
Thanks
I have a set of Goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 3 on my 535d, been on around 18months. Work well, amazing grip when the weather is hot, or if down in the Mediterranean, just let down by the shoddy m-sport suspension.Thanks
Eddieslofart said:
Budget - Falkens
Premium - Michelin
Depends on your definition of budget. On my M3 the FK453 barely did 8k before being illegal. In comparison the PS2s on my 944 with an LSD did 15-16k with 300BHP.Premium - Michelin
When you consider FK453s are £150 vs. £190 of the Michelins + time to get them changed etc. if you pile on the miles they don't seem that much of a bargain anymore. That's in 255/35R19 fitted by someone who won't mark the rim (two tyre shops were honest enough to tell me to be fair locally this may happen).
I do also know when my car drive the nicest. I went from FK452s & 453s to changing the 453s to PS4s. I eventually went to PS4S on the front ; The car drives like another car. The worst thing? I'd have saved £50 a corner on refurbing the wheels if I bought the Michelins sooner ; the Falkens have zero rim protection ; it's there more for show!
Goodyear F1 A3s to me seem like a better value tyre. 95% of the qualities of the Michelin but around 15-20% cheaper
.SebringMan said:
Depends on your definition of budget. On my M3 the FK453 barely did 8k before being illegal. In comparison the PS2s on my 944 with an LSD did 15-16k with 300BHP.
When you consider FK453s are £150 vs. £190 of the Michelins + time to get them changed etc. if you pile on the miles they don't seem that much of a bargain anymore. That's in 255/35R19 fitted by someone who won't mark the rim (two tyre shops were honest enough to tell me to be fair locally this may happen).
I do also know when my car drive the nicest. I went from FK452s & 453s to changing the 453s to PS4s. I eventually went to PS4S on the front ; The car drives like another car. The worst thing? I'd have saved £50 a corner on refurbing the wheels if I bought the Michelins sooner ; the Falkens have zero rim protection ; it's there more for show!
Goodyear F1 A3s to me seem like a better value tyre. 95% of the qualities of the Michelin but around 15-20% cheaper.
20 k out of the Falkens on the X5 at the mo, another ten left i reckon. The weight difference between the 2 cars you mention may explain ? When you consider FK453s are £150 vs. £190 of the Michelins + time to get them changed etc. if you pile on the miles they don't seem that much of a bargain anymore. That's in 255/35R19 fitted by someone who won't mark the rim (two tyre shops were honest enough to tell me to be fair locally this may happen).
I do also know when my car drive the nicest. I went from FK452s & 453s to changing the 453s to PS4s. I eventually went to PS4S on the front ; The car drives like another car. The worst thing? I'd have saved £50 a corner on refurbing the wheels if I bought the Michelins sooner ; the Falkens have zero rim protection ; it's there more for show!
Goodyear F1 A3s to me seem like a better value tyre. 95% of the qualities of the Michelin but around 15-20% cheaper
.Super Sports are not the hardest wearing tyre either.
I could but I wouldn't want to embarrass you 😉.
Joking aside I think the LSD impacts tyre life as does having 300BHP under your right foot. I hardly drive like an idiot however and generally drive outside of rush hour traffic.
Regarding the LSD I once borrowed some 17" wheels off a fellow PHer on mine in 225 form. I know then the LSD made itself known with the tears! On occasion you could hear them shuffling at low speed.
I'm surprised at that mileage though you'd managed that well; are you routes near enough motorway mileage?. My PS4s on the rear still have more tyre left with 5k on them over the Falkens at the same level. My motorway routes have died a death. I tend to only really do about 20 mile round trips most weeks now with motorway and town mileage
Joking aside I think the LSD impacts tyre life as does having 300BHP under your right foot. I hardly drive like an idiot however and generally drive outside of rush hour traffic.
Regarding the LSD I once borrowed some 17" wheels off a fellow PHer on mine in 225 form. I know then the LSD made itself known with the tears! On occasion you could hear them shuffling at low speed.
I'm surprised at that mileage though you'd managed that well; are you routes near enough motorway mileage?. My PS4s on the rear still have more tyre left with 5k on them over the Falkens at the same level. My motorway routes have died a death. I tend to only really do about 20 mile round trips most weeks now with motorway and town mileage
It all depends on what happens to the tyre.
If you pick up the typical nail puncture that deflates slowly and you either notice or the sensor goes off then slime can work well. Have something happen that means you drive even a small distance at low pressure and the sidewall is toast and no amount of slime will get you back on the road.
I hate the ride on run-flats but drive a lot of miles and love the comfort of knowing I can finish a journey.
I noticed on the Mercedes forum that they are starting to fit Contiseal tyres on GLC's with 21" wheels to try to avert the crabbing issue. Those tyres seem to get some good reviews
If you pick up the typical nail puncture that deflates slowly and you either notice or the sensor goes off then slime can work well. Have something happen that means you drive even a small distance at low pressure and the sidewall is toast and no amount of slime will get you back on the road.
I hate the ride on run-flats but drive a lot of miles and love the comfort of knowing I can finish a journey.
I noticed on the Mercedes forum that they are starting to fit Contiseal tyres on GLC's with 21" wheels to try to avert the crabbing issue. Those tyres seem to get some good reviews
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