Experts on residential parking?
Experts on residential parking?
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Kinky

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39,941 posts

298 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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Anyone in the great PH house who has any experience in getting their road or street re-classified for residential-only or restricted parking?

We have a huge issue with cars parking on our street from neighbouring housing developments - so much so that it's getting beyond a joke now.

We're in a cul-de-sac with approx 40 houses and about 10 flats.

For the record - we're not NIMBYs or anything like that - it's an on-going argument we've been having [indirectly] with 2-jabs/jags Prescott and his new breed of self-important bureaucrats.

Many thanks in advance,

K

puggit

49,789 posts

277 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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Just ask the council, they'll be more then happy to install a stupid and non-workable parking scheme

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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beware of what you ask for, for the council might give you it...

To promote such a scheme, the Council have to promote a Traffic Regulation Order. This must be supported by the police (who have to enforce it) then they write to various statutory consultees, then it is advertised for the public - it is at this stage that anybody can object. This might stymie the whole scheme.

Even if successfully introduced, the Council will be unlikely to dish out residents' permits willy-nilly - they will ration them per house. They might charge for them. Even if you have a permit, there will inevitably be more permits than spaces - a permit is no guarantee that you will have someplace to park!

Also any visitors to your house may have difficulty in parking.

So beware! You might solve one problem but create another!

>> Edited by tvrgit on Monday 4th April 23:09

Kinky

Original Poster:

39,941 posts

298 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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I must confess that if we're reliant on the Council then we have little hope as it's due to their incompetence we're in this position to start with.

For example (1 of many)- they built 8 houses up the road from us and only 4 parking spaces.

We objected to this, stating that each house would have at least 1 car and where would the other 4 park. They replied that the only people who would buy these houses would be non-car owning people, based on the fact that these were Prescots favourite phrase "affordable housing".

Suffice to say - we're right - they're wrong (but that's only the tip of the iceberg).

Another road around the corner from us successfully achieved in getting their road re-classified .... however 2 local councillors live on it. However I'll bite my tongue and say no more ......

shadowninja

79,993 posts

311 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Kinky said:


We have a huge issue with cars parking on our street from neighbouring housing developments - so much so that it's getting beyond a joke now.




thats the problem. it just moves the issue elsewhere. soon you wont be able to park anywhere but your own drive.

birdbrain

1,564 posts

268 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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I was going to buy a new flat in a development near Ware until I found out that there was no allocated parking and only 25 spaces for 35 flats/houses. It's right out in the countryside and a good 15 minutes walk from the train station so there's going to be carnage once everyone moves in.

Part of the problem is that the developers don't want to waste money on parking spaces when they could cram an extra couple of houses in instead.

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Kinky said:

We objected to this, stating that each house would have at least 1 car and where would the other 4 park. They replied that the only people who would buy these houses would be non-car owning people, based on the fact that these were Prescots favourite phrase "affordable housing".

So, in fact they're most likely to have 3 or 4 uninsured sheds that don't move per household, thus tying up 1/2 the parking in your road?

Kinky

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39,941 posts

298 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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pdV6 said:

So, in fact they're most likely to have 3 or 4 uninsured sheds that don't move per household, thus tying up 1/2 the parking in your road?


Basically yeah .... where there is little room as it is - AND there's a 100+ space public and no-charge car park approximately 50 yards away - which is rarely used

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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birdbrain said:
Part of the problem is that the developers don't want to waste money on parking spaces when they could cram an extra couple of houses in instead.

I'm afraid that most of the problem is that Councils have to enact Government policy by limiting the amount of parking the developer is allowed to provide.

Fact: Houses are easier to sell if buyers can see where their car(s) can be parked...

Another fact: people will just park in the next available street (which seems to be Kinky's problem here...)

MrsRotty

637 posts

260 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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We have had residents parking in our street for almost 2 years now - more areas in our town are having it rolled out gradually. We live near the middle of a smallish rural town (30k residents). Plus we are only 5 minutes walk from the biggest hospital for a radius of 25 miles or so.

We had awful probs during the day with people who worked in town parking on the street, or visitors to the hospital parking here, despite there being a long stay carpark just across the road that charged 50p all day. I'm a housewife with 2 small children, and it got to the point where I couldn't take them to the doctors etc during the day because when I got back there would be nowhere to park.

I could park in the car park, but its locked at 8pm, so i would have to leave said children on their own to move car. Anyway...we campaigned, and got ressies parking. It costs £30 per year , plus £10 for a visitors permit. You have to provide a copy of your logbook and council tax statement to prove that you are a resident and that the car is registered to you. No resident can have more than one permit, so MrRotty and I have a permit each for our respective cars.
The time limits run from 9am to 6pm, Mon - Sat. It is policed by the same dept that police the car parks - that is where most of the revenue goes. And it works!! More people use the car park now, thereby earning the council more revenue...

(Sorry for length - I don't get much adult conversation)