Nuclear nappy rash
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Our wee guy has had his third bout of nappy rash - I say rash, but it's more like two raised red lumps, almost welts/hard blisters, maybe 1cm wide and 3-4cm long either side of his little exit. Sudocrem seems to sort it out eventually, but it has come back the three times we've tried our cloth nappies.
The first time it happened they hadn't been washed with powder yet so it's not because there's detergent left on them - it's maybe more the amount of cloth material packed around his bum, whereas a disposable probably doesn't put as much pressure on it (just guessing here). The lumps are in such a position that they would touch each other if his bumcheeks were compressed together, like in tight nappy/clothing. They're pretty much dry when we take them off him too so it's not like he's sitting in dampness for a long time.
I hate the amount of binwaste we're throwing away, but can't persevere with the cloth nappies if they're the cause of the rash.
Any ideas? Does the raised weltness sound like normal rash or is that worth a visit to a doctor?
The first time it happened they hadn't been washed with powder yet so it's not because there's detergent left on them - it's maybe more the amount of cloth material packed around his bum, whereas a disposable probably doesn't put as much pressure on it (just guessing here). The lumps are in such a position that they would touch each other if his bumcheeks were compressed together, like in tight nappy/clothing. They're pretty much dry when we take them off him too so it's not like he's sitting in dampness for a long time.
I hate the amount of binwaste we're throwing away, but can't persevere with the cloth nappies if they're the cause of the rash.
Any ideas? Does the raised weltness sound like normal rash or is that worth a visit to a doctor?
ScotHill said:
Countdown said:
Try him with pampers for a couple of weeks - see how he gets on.
That's what we've gone back to to clear it up, for the third time now. It works, I just don't get what it is about this cloth nappy that fires it up again...
t.Just go disposables, I you're worried about the green aspect and landfill the case for toweling nappies isn't that great anyway.
Bepanthan cream works better than sudacrem.
Have you tried cleaning him with warm water and a towel rather than baby wipes? We used Pampers Sensitive wipes and they seemed to 'burn' his skin 
We tried using warm water and a towel, the rash/burning area cleared up pretty quick. Eventually we tried supermarket own-brands and had no further issues.
We tried using warm water and a towel, the rash/burning area cleared up pretty quick. Eventually we tried supermarket own-brands and had no further issues.Fwiw, we use biodegradable disposable nappies (can't remember the brand), calendula cream (and not just when his bum starts to turn red) and we use "water wipes" as they have fewer ingredients than most wet wipes. We also found most wet wipes tended to irritate his bum. All products are chosen by my wife. I am allowed to use them though, lucky me.
http://www.wonderoos.com/
Stacks of different brands out there, they do the job, usually with less leakages than disposables, and usually people find they're less susceptible to rash. Will have to see how we go though, if they flare him up we obviously can't keep using them.
Clean him with fleece and water, powder is Fairy non-bio so should be okay, no other reactions from his clothing.
So raised welt things sound like par for the course for nappy rash, just air and a barrier cream?
Stacks of different brands out there, they do the job, usually with less leakages than disposables, and usually people find they're less susceptible to rash. Will have to see how we go though, if they flare him up we obviously can't keep using them.
Clean him with fleece and water, powder is Fairy non-bio so should be okay, no other reactions from his clothing.
So raised welt things sound like par for the course for nappy rash, just air and a barrier cream?
Cloth nappies have come a long way since terries. And they are in no way st, nor do they need boil washing.
Are you using a liner? Either biodegradable bamboo (we use canny mum) or fleece? I'm thinking it could well be thrush, which is staying in the fibres and reinfecting your little one. Def worth a visit to the gp. Metanium (yellow) is also much better than sudocrem or bepathenen but it can stain fabrics.
I wash at 40 (once a month at 60) with miofresh added or you can do a strip and sanitise to make the nappies like new again- look up 'Clean Cloth Nappies Down Under' for a guide to this. It's a half day of work because you have to soak them, but will kill off all germs.
We use a mix of brands and change every 3-4 hours during the day unless he does a poo which we change straight away. He only gets nappy rash in disposeables these days as they are essentially made of plastic and not breathable as well as full of loads of chemicals.
I'm sure this issue can be easily resolved. It definitely doesn't sound like normal nappy rash to me! Teething makes their bums more sore but it does sound more like thrush.
Another thing (if you aren't using liners) is that creams can be absorbed into cloth and make them less absorbent. I love our cloth nappies- they've saved us a fortune and it's nice not having half a wheelie bin full every week. Hope this helps a bit. It's nice to hear of someone else that uses them because hardly anyone knows how much they've changed since the old days. (We use miosolos, Bumgenius freetimes and Alva baby btw)
t, nor do they need boil washing.Are you using a liner? Either biodegradable bamboo (we use canny mum) or fleece? I'm thinking it could well be thrush, which is staying in the fibres and reinfecting your little one. Def worth a visit to the gp. Metanium (yellow) is also much better than sudocrem or bepathenen but it can stain fabrics.
I wash at 40 (once a month at 60) with miofresh added or you can do a strip and sanitise to make the nappies like new again- look up 'Clean Cloth Nappies Down Under' for a guide to this. It's a half day of work because you have to soak them, but will kill off all germs.
We use a mix of brands and change every 3-4 hours during the day unless he does a poo which we change straight away. He only gets nappy rash in disposeables these days as they are essentially made of plastic and not breathable as well as full of loads of chemicals.
I'm sure this issue can be easily resolved. It definitely doesn't sound like normal nappy rash to me! Teething makes their bums more sore but it does sound more like thrush.
Another thing (if you aren't using liners) is that creams can be absorbed into cloth and make them less absorbent. I love our cloth nappies- they've saved us a fortune and it's nice not having half a wheelie bin full every week. Hope this helps a bit. It's nice to hear of someone else that uses them because hardly anyone knows how much they've changed since the old days. (We use miosolos, Bumgenius freetimes and Alva baby btw)
ScotHill said:
http://www.wonderoos.com/
Clean him with fleece and water, powder is Fairy non-bio so should be okay, no other reactions from his clothing.
"should"Clean him with fleece and water, powder is Fairy non-bio so should be okay, no other reactions from his clothing.
Might well be okay, but Persil non-bio seemsn to bring my youngest out in rashes behind his knees and wrists (he's now four).
Worth a shot?
The Char said:
It's nice to hear of someone else that uses them because hardly anyone knows how much they've changed since the old days.
Yeah I wouldn't want to bag up three years worth of my own piss & st in plastic and bury it in the ground, so it's nice to have the option not to do it with my son. 
Hadn't thought about thrush, it's definitely shiny red so will look into that, thanks.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 7th July 01:39
Forgot to add, I don't know your wash routine with them but I do:
Cold prewash with half a scoop of powder.
Long wash cycle with powder and a scoop of miofresh plus an extra rinse at the end- gets rid of detergent residue.
We're on holiday in Italy so I've brought disposables and the smell is already doing my head in. We keep thinking he's pooed but no, it's just what the nappies smell like!
For anyone thinking poo goes in the washing machine- liners mean this doesn't happen.
Cold prewash with half a scoop of powder.
Long wash cycle with powder and a scoop of miofresh plus an extra rinse at the end- gets rid of detergent residue.
We're on holiday in Italy so I've brought disposables and the smell is already doing my head in. We keep thinking he's pooed but no, it's just what the nappies smell like!
For anyone thinking poo goes in the washing machine- liners mean this doesn't happen.
Look out for Metanium cream - it's what the hospitals/Intensive care nurses use to treat bed sores.
Available over the counter form boots etc.
Wife is an Intensive Care Sister and it's what we used on our daughter when she had nappy rash.
Also - try a bit of nappy free time (let the air round it/dry it out naturally) obviously suggest putting down a blanket/something you can wash easily .....
Available over the counter form boots etc.
Wife is an Intensive Care Sister and it's what we used on our daughter when she had nappy rash.
Also - try a bit of nappy free time (let the air round it/dry it out naturally) obviously suggest putting down a blanket/something you can wash easily .....
Don't use baby wipes they're horrible things.
When our two were babies we used to clean them with cotton pads (buy the make up removing cotton wool pads rather than the baby ones - they're a lot cheaper) and we would put a dollop of baby lotion (the pink stuff) on the pad and use that to clean everything. We'd then put a good layer of metanium cream (the yellow stuff) on if they needed it. To be honest the lotion would be more than enough to act as a barrier.
Another tip, when applying the metanium cream don't rub it on, instead dab it on with your finger tip, like a good oil painter dabbing paint onto a canvas.
When our two were babies we used to clean them with cotton pads (buy the make up removing cotton wool pads rather than the baby ones - they're a lot cheaper) and we would put a dollop of baby lotion (the pink stuff) on the pad and use that to clean everything. We'd then put a good layer of metanium cream (the yellow stuff) on if they needed it. To be honest the lotion would be more than enough to act as a barrier.
Another tip, when applying the metanium cream don't rub it on, instead dab it on with your finger tip, like a good oil painter dabbing paint onto a canvas.
Stumbled across this thread in the What's New section. It's a while since I've had to deal with this but when my children were in nappies, we had this stuff recommended to us by my wife's US relatives:
https://uk.iherb.com/pr/boudreaux-s-original-butt-...
Over there it's easily available in Walmart etc but once back in the UK we were able to order it from Amazon. It doesn't to be available via their UK store now.
https://uk.iherb.com/pr/boudreaux-s-original-butt-...
Over there it's easily available in Walmart etc but once back in the UK we were able to order it from Amazon. It doesn't to be available via their UK store now.
Can you get a few nappies a different shape/style to try?
I know nothing of cloth nappies but what you're describing and the symmetry of it is making me wonder if it's something like a pair of little early stage pressure sores, perhaps from having a seam or something in the wrong place.
Is your littlun mobile, is he spending a long time in the same positions?
I know nothing of cloth nappies but what you're describing and the symmetry of it is making me wonder if it's something like a pair of little early stage pressure sores, perhaps from having a seam or something in the wrong place.
Is your littlun mobile, is he spending a long time in the same positions?
FlyingMeeces said:
Can you get a few nappies a different shape/style to try?
I know nothing of cloth nappies but what you're describing and the symmetry of it is making me wonder if it's something like a pair of little early stage pressure sores, perhaps from having a seam or something in the wrong place.
Is your littlun mobile, is he spending a long time in the same positions?
He's 5 weeks so pretty much held and back-bound, apart from a bit of tummy time. There are no seams but there may be extra pressure from the cloth material over the disposable nappy. Will investigate thrush first as that sounds more likely given what it looks like, and I noticed he did have a white spotted tongue a while ago which is a sign of oral thrush that can then pass through his system, but will keep an eye on it when he goes back to cloth.I know nothing of cloth nappies but what you're describing and the symmetry of it is making me wonder if it's something like a pair of little early stage pressure sores, perhaps from having a seam or something in the wrong place.
Is your littlun mobile, is he spending a long time in the same positions?
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