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stormcloud

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39 posts

259 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Oh my!, now I cannot seem to drive the elise with low enough RPM's to give my ears a break. My ears suggest it would be a good idea but the part of the brain that controls my right foot and gear changing arm seem to have the final say.

Earplugs are the way forward most certainly if I am on my own but for a passenger I need a more general solution.

Having blasted around in it the whole weekend with the top down and last night gone for a very long drive with the top up I have come to the conclusion that it seems to be quieter with the top down. This is almost certainly down to the tension in the roof cover just bouncing the sound around the cabin. I ran a few tests and concluded the car at 60mph in 5th gear (around 2-2.5k RPM) was fine and everyone was happy. Once up to 3k RPM at 70mph in 5th it all seemed to get a little too much when driving for more than 30mins.

Of course I could use the smaller roads that only allow 60mph but sometimes you need to get to places quicker (legal speeds of course).

I would like opinions, costs, and fitters of sound proofing. Will it have a performance hit of noticable proportions if I add a few kg?

I expect it to be loud when I am in the >5k region, but would just like a little more sound comfort when I have to run on a motorway once in a while.

CheesyUK

35 posts

259 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Surely adding soundproofing would just detract from the whole concept that the car was built to - and the reason it's such a raw experience.

I love the sound of my Elise - sure it's loud on the mororway but having done the run to Cornwall and back you just numb to it after a while.

I think this is the first post I have seen on the forum trying to find ways of making their beloved actually sound quieter!!


S Works

10,166 posts

280 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Yep, depending on the induction/can's you have on it can get pretty resonant with the lid on. Roof off you only have to bother with wind noise above 70 and even that's bearable unless you're pushing 80+ (which of course you'd never do on a motorway would you ).

So, you'll just have to drive with the roof off more

Davey S1

13,394 posts

284 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Sounds like you either need to return to a standard exhaust (I assume you have a sports exhause on it at the moment) or buy something like a TT or Z4 if you want a more relaxing comfortable drive.

An Elise will never be quiet or relaxing on a long journey but going back to the standard exhaust and induction set up should quieten it down for you. It will sound about as exciting as a sewing machine though.

StuartB

339 posts

265 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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The previous owner of my car had it sound proofed, then carpet fitted on it. To be honest I don't think it has made that much of difference. Between your easrs and the engine is about 2 foot of air, a vented boot lid and 4 mm of glass, it is always going to be loud.

It does seem noisier with the roof on, as people have mentioned before.

If you don't like it change the exhaust

stormcloud

Original Poster:

39 posts

259 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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A solution has presented itself.

Jabra hands free in right ear, earplug in left ear. Better half will be wearing in-ear headphones with some kind of background noise reduction effort.

Benefits are obvious

Ju.

163 posts

259 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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All cars with a performance exhaust have a loud deep region around 3000rpm my old clio was terrible for this well i did have az full system decat and manifold but that was a nightmare sometimes. You just have to livce with it its what you have to do for performance

BigAndy69

117 posts

261 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Turn the stereo up, works for me!

apprentice

1,219 posts

290 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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We had a lot of resonance in our kitchen - we then fitted curtains which helped absorbed some noise.

stormcloud

Original Poster:

39 posts

259 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Ok, not having an accurate sound level indicator I decided to take the car for a brisk drive. I turned up the radio until I was satisfied I could hear it over the sound of the other noises bouncing around the cabin. I pulled up to the side of the road and turned off the engine, the radio was very loud and I am sure pretty harmful (unless you come from a clubbing background of course).

With earplugs in place I set off again, this time it sounded much more reasonable. Radio still has to be loud but is much clearer, and the noises (including rattles) are much less noticable. Very impressed.

Now my exhaust is better than stock but when the sun is out and the top is down I have no problems at all. I understand this is a tolerance issue and it will depend on the individual, but for motorway driving it really does help make it a more comfortable journey IMHO.

fergusd

1,251 posts

300 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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stormcloud said:

I understand this is a tolerance issue and it will depend on the individual, but for motorway driving it really does help make it a more comfortable journey IMHO.


While that may seem true, everybody's hearing gets damaged . . . I like the sound of my car but always wear ear protection when driving it, I don't want to be deaf in 5 years time . . . I can still hear it, it's just not deafening me and damaging my hearing.

Fd

Ju.

163 posts

259 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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I bet you will find its reasonable at 4K

S Works

10,166 posts

280 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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YOU BUNCH OF BIG GIRLS BLOUSES!

_topcat

1,938 posts

279 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Well said.

cinqster

1,057 posts

309 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Sounds like you just need a 'sensible' car instead?

fergusd

1,251 posts

300 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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cinqster said:
Sounds like you just need a 'sensible' car instead?


eejit

Fd

scott64

236 posts

281 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Guys come on wakey, wakey. I put on a race exhaust to be loud very loud. Sounds like a race car totally fab better than any radio staion can produce. Just can't wait for the engine tempratutre to show those magic digits then it's round to the red line every time, FANTASTIC.

Stormcloud

Original Poster:

39 posts

259 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Everyone has different tastes, the consistent loud cabin noise on long motorway journeys for me is a pain. I'll just have to find some more country lanes.

I can see the appeal of a race exhaust though, must sound awesome when going for a blast on B roads.

scott64

236 posts

281 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Yeh it does sound pretty good, just a shame there are no tunnels in Suffolk!!

S Works

10,166 posts

280 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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scott64 said:
Yeh it does sound pretty good, just a shame there are no tunnels in Suffolk!!

Come and have a weekend in London, Kent and Sussex mate. Nice driving roads down to and along the coast, weekend by the seaside, great places for lunch/dinner etc... what are you waiting for dude!?