I suspect my decorator is dishonest
I suspect my decorator is dishonest
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keith2874

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45 posts

195 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Hello all

I would be really grateful for some advice on the following as it is causing a lot of anxiety.

I employed a decorator to repaint our hall stairs and landing - we were at work while he painted the walls.

He was supposed to use farrow and ball paint and has billed us accordingly - but having painted a patch of farrow and ball paint from the colour tester pot onto the wall it is now apparent that the paint on the walls is not the same shade or texture. I am firmly of the view that he has colour matched the shade with a cheaper brand of paint.

I asked him to give me the leftover paint and he maintains there was none left.

I have so far paid him £1100 in cash for the work - and he is owed a further £420 which I was going to pay into his account until I discovered this. Incidentally the £1100 paid exceeds what he originally quoted by £250 - he maintains the extra expense is due to an increased materials bill by virtue of us specifying farrow and ball paint.

I am going to challenge him on this tomorrow when he comes round to drop off his key but wondered where I stand on this. I am going to ask him if the paint is genuine - if he says that it is I am going to ask him to prove this by way of a bank statement or receipt. I doubt these will be forthcoming, and if he continues to argue the point I was then going to contact the paint manufacturer, who are up the road, to ask their opinion.

I would really appreciate any advice on this - has anyone else been in the same situation?

Thanks in advance

Keith


DoubleSix

12,559 posts

206 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Hmm tread carefully!

Fwiw F&B has a very distinctive flat almost chalky finish that others do not manage. Should be fairly obvious.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

235 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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This should be fun. Subscribed for tomorrow!

Dog Star

17,614 posts

198 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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hornetrider said:
This should be fun. Subscribed for tomorrow!
Same here. I bet the OP is correct though.

Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area

7,424 posts

219 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Ask to see his receipt/invoice for the paint. If he says he didn't get one then you'll know he's lying.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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If it gets heated, make sure you don't let him brush it off and avoid rolling over at the first sign of conflict.

briang9

4,094 posts

190 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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hornetrider said:
This should be fun. Subscribed for tomorrow!
+1

Ken Figenus

6,011 posts

147 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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This - receipt - goes against his tax so he would have one!

I got stung by a decorator as the paint was peeling off 6 months later - hadn't rubbed it down - gave the b a £20 tip too. Grrr!

mgtony

4,214 posts

220 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Would I be right in saying that there is a different finish from the Farrow and Ball Dead Flat, Estate, and Modern range of paints? So the match pot might finish not necessarily match the version of the final paint used.
Although it does sound suspect that none is left over.
If you know exactly what was supposed to be used, buy a 2.5L can and paint over a bit that he has already done that wont really be seen or on a board and see what it looks like and if different, show the decorator.

Yipper

5,964 posts

120 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Oldest trick in the book wink

First, dominate the hallway. Second, ask for a receipt. Third, ask for the place, name and day he bought the paint (in case it is a fake receipt / invoice off the Web) and verify it with them by phone. Fourth, perhaps a long shot, but ask the paint company if there is any way they can test the dried paint if you post them a sample. If faked, demand a 100% refund (for false work).

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,031 posts

265 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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So, you are not happy with the colour/texture, but if it's the right brand you're OK? biggrin


Just spoofing. Surely the conversation is " the look is a little different to what I was expecting? What do you think Mr Decorator? Aha, did you remember to use the specified brand? You did? Can batches really vary that much from the sampler? Suggest we talk to the supplier to get this mis match resolved.


Ken Figenus

6,011 posts

147 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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mgtony said:
buy a 2.5L can and paint over a bit that he has already done that wont really be seen or on a board and see what it looks like and if different, show the decorator.
This. Could save much aggro and being wrong but dug in. Cheap check (well cheap-ish - I'm more a Leyland man as have other priorities) wink

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Ask to see the empty paint tins.

CoolHands

23,548 posts

225 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Sounds cheap, was that to gloss all doors & doorways as well?

Wacky Racer

41,363 posts

277 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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gottans said:
Ask to see the empty paint tins.
"Oh, I took them to the tip last week".....

rallycross

13,757 posts

267 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Must be a big hall, even taking into account the absurd prices people pay for F&B paint (you know its just a brand of paint right?)

Is it like this?




Thermobaric

725 posts

150 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Off topic, but is £1500 the going rate to do stairs and landing these days?

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Decorators don't typically like F & B.

wombleh

2,385 posts

152 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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I was searching about f&b online and came across a lot of decorators who claim people can't tell the difference and have used other cheaper stuff instead, so you're right to be suspicious.

Although they also might have watered it down, plus f&b can vary a bit, their website tells you how to check tins are from the same batch and recommends mixing them together if not.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

235 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Surely you'd want the remainder for any touch ups to cover scrapes, damage?! Ask him precisely which paint so you can have a spare tin. And then paint some on and see if it matches.