Leaving my job - no future plan. What to do?
Leaving my job - no future plan. What to do?
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FrankAbagnale

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1,836 posts

136 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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I am leaving my current job at the end of September and have made no firm forward plans. I am 31, single, no mortgage or commitments.

I do have some opportunities to be employed in property that will be there for an indefinite amount of time, but the plan is to start my own business. I have a few ideas (within property) that are workable and I am exploring further - they are time sensitive to an extent. One is a new estate agency model, another is property development and finally a new property service that isn't currently offered in the UK. I am not firm on any of these ideas at the moment or wholly committed to property. I am keeping my options open for now.

At this point, the detail of those ideas isn't important but hopefully gives an idea of industry and timescales - i.e it doesn't need to happen tomorrow but can't wait years. Ultimately, I am very relaxed about my future.

My question is, should I crack straight on with a startup or take some time out? Time out could be a month, 3 months or a year. If I took some time out, what should I do? Cycle across Europe? Go to Thailand and work in a bar for 3 months? Sit on a beach? Be a deckhand on a yacht? Start a real time thread allowing PH to vote day by day on my next move? Or, should I knuckle down immediately and get to work?

I am sure there are some older/wiser heads on here who've had a similar situation before and can offer advice with the benefit of hindsight.

If I did take some time out, I'd have a spare £5-10k to be able to spend on whatever it is I do, plus any money I earned if I worked.

Countdown

47,814 posts

220 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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If I were you I'd take time out.

3 months will not make a lot of difference to your career. You have the time/money/opportunity to do something that you'll always remember so I'd make the most of it. smile

Sycamore

2,138 posts

142 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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I'm 22, so little life experience, however if you've no commitments, I'd take the chance now to get some travel in. SE Asia can be done cheaply too if required.


ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

197 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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FrankAbagnale said:
I am leaving my current job at the end of September and have made no firm forward plans. I am 31, single, no mortgage or commitments.

I do have some opportunities to be employed in property that will be there for an indefinite amount of time, but the plan is to start my own business. I have a few ideas (within property) that are workable and I am exploring further - they are time sensitive to an extent. One is a new estate agency model, another is property development and finally a new property service that isn't currently offered in the UK. I am not firm on any of these ideas at the moment or wholly committed to property. I am keeping my options open for now.

At this point, the detail of those ideas isn't important but hopefully gives an idea of industry and timescales - i.e it doesn't need to happen tomorrow but can't wait years. Ultimately, I am very relaxed about my future.

My question is, should I crack straight on with a startup or take some time out? Time out could be a month, 3 months or a year. If I took some time out, what should I do? Cycle across Europe? Go to Thailand and work in a bar for 3 months? Sit on a beach? Be a deckhand on a yacht? Start a real time thread allowing PH to vote day by day on my next move? Or, should I knuckle down immediately and get to work?

I am sure there are some older/wiser heads on here who've had a similar situation before and can offer advice with the benefit of hindsight.

If I did take some time out, I'd have a spare £5-10k to be able to spend on whatever it is I do, plus any money I earned if I worked.
Difficult to give an exact answer and only you can choose, personally if I were you I'd take a few months to nail down the business plan as you seem a little unsure about exactly what you're going to do.
Once that's in place take maybe a few months to relax and travel a bit, come back enthused and focus on getting the business going.

Orchid1

905 posts

132 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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I'm in a semi similar situation to yourself. I'm 29 and stuck in a job i've been trying to get out of for the past four years which is soon about to get alot worse due to various reasons I won't bore you with.

I've got no commitments so also thinking of just jacking it in and taking three months out to decide what I really want to do i'm just terrified that since I have such terrible luck in finding jobs the three months career break will turn into a homeless living on the street break.

If you've got the means to set up your own business and the contacts/experience to get back into another job easily if you need be then i'd go for the break. I'm very envious of you.

FrankAbagnale

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Monday 7th August 2017
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ZOLLAR said:
FrankAbagnale said:
I am leaving my current job at the end of September and have made no firm forward plans. I am 31, single, no mortgage or commitments.

I do have some opportunities to be employed in property that will be there for an indefinite amount of time, but the plan is to start my own business. I have a few ideas (within property) that are workable and I am exploring further - they are time sensitive to an extent. One is a new estate agency model, another is property development and finally a new property service that isn't currently offered in the UK. I am not firm on any of these ideas at the moment or wholly committed to property. I am keeping my options open for now.

At this point, the detail of those ideas isn't important but hopefully gives an idea of industry and timescales - i.e it doesn't need to happen tomorrow but can't wait years. Ultimately, I am very relaxed about my future.

My question is, should I crack straight on with a startup or take some time out? Time out could be a month, 3 months or a year. If I took some time out, what should I do? Cycle across Europe? Go to Thailand and work in a bar for 3 months? Sit on a beach? Be a deckhand on a yacht? Start a real time thread allowing PH to vote day by day on my next move? Or, should I knuckle down immediately and get to work?

I am sure there are some older/wiser heads on here who've had a similar situation before and can offer advice with the benefit of hindsight.

If I did take some time out, I'd have a spare £5-10k to be able to spend on whatever it is I do, plus any money I earned if I worked.
Difficult to give an exact answer and only you can choose, personally if I were you I'd take a few months to nail down the business plan as you seem a little unsure about exactly what you're going to do.
Once that's in place take maybe a few months to relax and travel a bit, come back enthused and focus on getting the business going.
This has crossed my mind. At the moment I live in an "echo chamber" and have no opinions or thoughts from people outside my current life. Taking time out and immersing myself in a different location among different people could add a lot of value to what I do moving forwards.

parabolica

6,967 posts

208 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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I left my job at the end of October last year; same as you - 33, no plans but had the means to support time off of up to 1 year. The last 9 months have been the most stress-free, pleasurable time of my life. Done a fair bit of travelling (Japan, Canada, and Korea) and helped some friends and family with projects (best friend was renovating his house/grounds, dad is renovating a Jensen). Need to get back into the mindset of finding work (it's a hard thing to do after so much time out) but if you can afford to take a little time I'd highly recommend it. Just be prepared for everyone you know asking if you've started looking/found a job/started your business yet.

Edited by parabolica on Monday 7th August 13:32

glenrobbo

39,615 posts

174 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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Shnozz

30,209 posts

295 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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I set up on my own about 3 years ago and, whilst enjoyable, its a 24/7 commitment whereby I am never able to have a proper switched off holiday. Yes, the versatility of running my own gig means I now enjoy large swathes of time in sunnier climes working from beaches and poolsides, but I am still working every day in some way or another, even if its just remotely checking on emails. I cannot see that now changing until I sell up or retire (hopefully both).

If I had the chance again, I would be minded to enjoy a lengthy break before starting the venture.

Front bottom

5,648 posts

214 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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Take a few months off and go travelling. You never know who you'll meet or what opportunities may open up for you in this time.

Plus, you'll have that valuable extra time to really consider all angles.

FrankAbagnale

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1,836 posts

136 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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General consensus is time out, with one vote for drink loads of cola and play rugby.

I think my head says time out is the best option, it will help me focus but also refresh after 10+ years of working in sales. I think the only thing stopping me from taking the time out is the feeling of not progressing and being productive. I need to re-evaluate that thought process and measure progress in ways other than working hours.

hman

7,497 posts

218 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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See the world and realise :-

A) how small the world really is now
B) that there's loads of nice places to be around the world

Having done it - make sure you go to all the major continents.

Vaud

58,214 posts

179 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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Pick a challenge.

If you are reasonably fit, this is a stunning hike - 10-14 days Chamonix to Zermatt. September is the latest you can do it (generally)

https://besthike.com/europe/alps/haute-route/

Tour of Mont Blanc is similar, though more crowded.

BoRED S2upid

20,996 posts

264 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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Do the thing where we vote on what you do each day like a real life dice man. I loved that book.

Cob1

68 posts

111 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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Do both... take a world trip to research your new business ideas/models.

From a business planning point of view the research stage is something most entrepreneurs gloss over (And I do mean research, proper structured focussed research - not prevarication).

Go see how the models you mention work in other countries - ring up similar firms & go see the owners. I know a few people who have done this and had an incredibly warm reception. Aussies & americans in particular - you don't compete with them, they get to show off what they've built warts & all - in some cases the hospitality they got was amazing.

With the ability to show meetings & associated correspondance - I'm sure a good accountant will help ensure legitimate expenses incurred are dealt with in a tax efficient manner too...

red_slr

20,117 posts

213 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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I would think long and hard before you try and start a business, esp in property. Unless you already have a property portfolio or family that does it could be a rough ride the next few years. I would say taking a few months off to travel will be the least of your worries. HTH!

FrankAbagnale

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Monday 7th August 2017
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red_slr said:
I would think long and hard before you try and start a business, esp in property. Unless you already have a property portfolio or family that does it could be a rough ride the next few years. I would say taking a few months off to travel will be the least of your worries. HTH!
I have worked in property for the last 8 years, my family has owned property related businesses for about 30 years and continues to do so and there is a healthy property portfolio. But, with all that said the reason I am leaving the family businesses and going it alone is I want to build my own rather than look after somebody elses. I'll certainly be using their experience to help me along the way, but not be employed by them.

All that said, whatever I do next isn't certain to be property but it would be a natural progression.

FrankAbagnale

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Cob1 said:
Do both... take a world trip to research your new business ideas/models.

From a business planning point of view the research stage is something most entrepreneurs gloss over (And I do mean research, proper structured focussed research - not prevarication).

Go see how the models you mention work in other countries - ring up similar firms & go see the owners. I know a few people who have done this and had an incredibly warm reception. Aussies & americans in particular - you don't compete with them, they get to show off what they've built warts & all - in some cases the hospitality they got was amazing.

With the ability to show meetings & associated correspondance - I'm sure a good accountant will help ensure legitimate expenses incurred are dealt with in a tax efficient manner too...
Not a bad idea at all, one of the ideas is definitely offered abroad quite widely but just not adopted in the UK. Travel and research is a good way to be productive while stepping away from the daily grind to adopt other ideas/lessons.

FrankAbagnale

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BoRED S2upid said:
Do the thing where we vote on what you do each day like a real life dice man. I loved that book.
I'm sure there would be money to be made by having some sort of social media challenge where you let people decide in real time how to live your life. The ultimate reality show.

I don't think I have the looks or body to attract the masses though, which is pretty necessary to engage the target demographic!!

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

197 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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Vaud said:
Pick a challenge.

If you are reasonably fit, this is a stunning hike - 10-14 days Chamonix to Zermatt. September is the latest you can do it (generally)

https://besthike.com/europe/alps/haute-route/

Tour of Mont Blanc is similar, though more crowded.
I went to Chamonix in March skiing and also Aguille du midi, thoroughly recommend a visit.