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mrs fish

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30,018 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Channel 4 9pm

For those that were interested in the whole abortion debate. May find this interesting

mrs fish

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287 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Its started

rude-boy

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262 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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O/T

Sorry that this is a bit o/t but this reminded me about a sermon that was delivered by my old school Chaplin. It was one of the few times that I have ever heard anything that sounded sensible during on of these. (I decided at an early age, after looking into it a bit that I was not the religious type.)

It centred around a conversation between a pair of twins in the womb of their mother discussing whether or not there was such a thing as life after birth. Obviously this was designed to make the listeners consider the prospect of life after death but never had I heard the argument for it put across so effectively.

pesty

42,655 posts

285 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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quite interesting so far wish that poet would FO though

mrs fish

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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pesty said:
quite interesting so far wish that poet would FO though



I agree, the poetry bit is naff but other than that I am finding it very interesting. Maybe more so because I am preggers

Lois

14,706 posts

281 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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I've been in a meeting all evening and only just got home so have recorded it.
I still don't agree with all this scanning though.

Jaglover

46,737 posts

264 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Thanks Mrs Fish

Watched most of it

Babies can hear in the womb-play yours classical music-try and make them cultured at a young age

Youth Gone Wild

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266 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Jaglover said:
Thanks Mrs Fish

Watched most of it

Babies can hear in the womb-play yours classical music-try and make them cultured at a young age


No, go for rock and heavy metal.

mrs fish

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Friday 8th April 2005
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I think I'll go for something in between

neil.b

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276 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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mrs fish said:
I think I'll go for something in between


What, Queen?

turbobloke

117,126 posts

289 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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Mrs F, when you've decided between classical or punk rock, don't forget the real music of choice...the difference between a flat four, flat six, straight six, V8, V10 and V12 at least, should be appreciated at an early age

lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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What a great programme.

Very interesting, particularly the bit at the start where you are virtually the same as a Daffodil or a Pig before you become more 'humanised'.

Mrs Fish

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Friday 8th April 2005
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turbobloke said:
Mrs F, when you've decided between classical or punk rock, don't forget the real music of choice...the difference between a flat four, flat six, straight six, V8, V10 and V12 at least, should be appreciated at an early age


Well we have a V8 Landrover that will have to do for starters

His first trip out will actually be at Cadwell Park in July so I'm sure he will be a proper little petrolhead.... especially with Fish as a father

wendyg

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272 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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Excellent program, except for the poetry, which was pants. A bit too much of the '..what is the point, at which life begins,' etc

I especially liked the time-lapse baby growth effect.

anonymous said:
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To reassure anyone else who worried about the invasiveness of the film-making, very little of the footage was actually intra-uterine. The 4-D stuff was real, but the early foetus was silicone rubber, and much of the realistic later images were CGI (according to the Radio Times anyway).

stig

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313 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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With a wife who's 36 weeks, we found it very interesting. I did find the poetry a bit cheesy and the anti-abortionist will have a field day!

But, all in all, it makes you realise what a genuine 'miracle' birth is.

The last bit was a bit up-close and personal though

I'm staying at the head end (the wife, not the child) during labour

Mrs Fish

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Friday 8th April 2005
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stig said:


The last bit was a bit up-close and personal though

I'm staying at the head end (the wife, not the child) during labour



I had to tape the last 40 minutes from 33 weeks onwards as I was too tired to stay awake, will watch the rest tonight.

One thing that has been confusing me... hopefully someone will set me straight

I always thought pregnancy was 9 months, but in all the books I have and reading on websites the overall time they seem to talk about is 10 months (40 weeks)....

Last night they followed the 9 month rule, I presume as I haven't watched all of it yet, so....

....according to the 40 week rule I am 32 weeks pregnant, but according to the programme last night, I should be 4 weeks less than that.... Or am I beng really dense

lazyitus

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295 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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stig said:
I'm staying at the head end (the wife, not the child) during labour


Wise Stig, wise.

Last time I was involved in such an event, I picked South by accident. Like a nancy boy, I nearly fainted.

JagLover

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264 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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stig said:
With a wife who's 36 weeks, we found it very interesting. I did find the poetry a bit cheesy and the anti-abortionist will have a field day!


You might be right

Honest question- did the programme change anyones views on current abortion laws?

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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lazyitus said:

stig said:
I'm staying at the head end (the wife, not the child) during labour



Wise Stig, wise.

Last time I was involved in such an event, I picked South by accident. Like a nancy boy, I nearly fainted.


I am the most squeamish pathetic specimen ever but I was at the business end on both occasions and I wouldn't have missed it for the world.

I was down there principally to stay out of Mrs U's reach as she was trying to beat me around the head so that I could "bloody well enjoy some of the pain that I'm going through because of you you bastard - next time keep it in your trousers" etc...


To Mrs Fish. Don't worry it's not painful at all really. I think she was making a bit of a fuss about nothing.

Lois

14,706 posts

281 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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wendyg said:
anonymous said:
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To reassure anyone else who worried about the invasiveness of the film-making, very little of the footage was actually intra-uterine. The 4-D stuff was real, but the early foetus was silicone rubber, and much of the realistic later images were CGI (according to the Radio Times anyway).


By no means was it the invasiveness I have reserves about. Ordinary 12 and 20 weeks scans I agree with yes. They have a purpose and have yet to show any long term effects. However, more powerful scans and scanning frequently without a medical reason to outweigh the risk, is yet to prove harmless.