A win for Speedraser.
A win for Speedraser.
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Jon39

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15,012 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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I was recently browsing Tim Cottingham's website (www.astonmartins.com).

On the page about buying Your First Aston Martin, is the following advice;

' and never ever buy a car that doesn’t have an Aston Martin engine. Occasionally you see cars with Jaguar V12’s and Chevy V8’s in the engine bay – they are not Aston Martins, even if they look like they are! '

I wonder if that wording might be changed next year. - wink





avinalarf

6,438 posts

173 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Yesterday I happened to mention,to my wife,that AM were using a Merc engine in their new ranges and she was aghast.
Her words to me were " How can they call it an Aston if it has a Merc engine ".
Got me thinking I must admit.


jonby

5,367 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Jon39 said:
I was recently browsing Tim Cottingham's website (www.astonmartins.com).

On the page about buying Your First Aston Martin, is the following advice;

' and never ever buy a car that doesn’t have an Aston Martin engine. Occasionally you see cars with Jaguar V12’s and Chevy V8’s in the engine bay – they are not Aston Martins, even if they look like they are! '

I wonder if that wording might be changed next year. - wink
amusing, interesting and worthwhile posting, but not exactly comparable :-) Presumably they aren't engines Aston have put in the cars and then marketed as Astons (shoot me down if I've got the wrong end of the stick)

rovcallum

553 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Just to extend this line of thought, what happens when they get electric power? Will we call it a Brook Crompton or still call it an Aston?scratchchin

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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I thought Jon39 was just being argumentative because he is comparing apple with pears.

On older Aston's when the engines failed it was not uncommon for and alternate manufacturers engine to be put in rather than face the cost of a genuine Aston engine. It was then not uncommon to "forget" to mention it when selling the car as an Aston, when clearly it wasn't. So, not quite the same!

Edited by IanV12VR on Wednesday 16th August 20:23

Jon39

Original Poster:

15,012 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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jonby said:
amusing, interesting and worthwhile posting, but not exactly comparable :-) Presumably they aren't engines Aston have put in the cars and then marketed as Astons (shoot me down if I've got the wrong end of the stick)

Purely for amusement Jonby.
My doctor tells me that some laughing and aways being optimistic, might make us live longer. Perhaps he is joking though.

Seriously though, I think Tim must have been talking about 1970s / 1980s Aston Martins.
Presumably some non Aston engined cars do exist. No doubt it would have been much cheaper to put in a widely available V8, following an engine disaster.








telum01

987 posts

146 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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Tim's a great guy - I met him a little over a year ago at an AMOC event in the American northeast. He's got a wonderful sense of humor, so I don't think it was meant with any hostility or divisiveness in mind.

northernmedia

1,988 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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Not this again wink

It's been done to death but I'm not sure where you draw the line.

The V12 has a feint history with a couple of old dirty minxes, one called Duratec the other Veesix and the sex mad V8 had unprotected sex with a hooker called Ajay.

Fortunately the family jewels came out the other end fairly unscathed and the rest as they say is history.

I'm fairly sure it'll be the same with the planned weekend away in a Berlin super brothel.

wink

Jon39

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15,012 posts

174 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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telum01 said:
Tim's a great guy - I met him a little over a year ago at an AMOC event in the American northeast. He's got a wonderful sense of humor, so I don't think it was meant with any hostility or divisiveness in mind.

I expect it is very probable, that Tim wrote his piece before anyone knew about the AMG V8.
He is definitely referring to engine switching in the old days.



Speedraser

1,712 posts

214 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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Jon39 said:
I was recently browsing Tim Cottingham's website (www.astonmartins.com).

On the page about buying Your First Aston Martin, is the following advice;

' and never ever buy a car that doesn’t have an Aston Martin engine. Occasionally you see cars with Jaguar V12’s and Chevy V8’s in the engine bay – they are not Aston Martins, even if they look like they are! '

I wonder if that wording might be changed next year. - wink
beer
I had the privilege of having Tim as my passenger/navigator several years ago on a rally/tour at the AMOC event at Lime Rock. He makes an excellent point smile

Speedraser

1,712 posts

214 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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northernmedia said:
... The V12 has a feint history with a couple of old dirty minxes, one called Duratec the other Veesix and the sex mad V8 had unprotected sex with a hooker called Ajay.

wink
Those kinds of flings and affairs can produce interesting and wonderful Aston Martin offspring. The AMG engine, in contrast, is just being bought in -- no sex, and no Aston Martin result smile

Ex Boy Racer

1,167 posts

223 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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Had a chat with a chap at Aston Martin Bristol today. He reckons the sound of the new V8 is completely different from any Mercedes.

His view is it will be very well received.

Not for me as it's a turbo, but might well be ok!