Another level crossing star..

[MoggieMinor]

http://media.btp.police.uk/r/14538/woman_fined_for...

[mac96]

MoggieMinor said:

http://media.btp.police.uk/r/14538/woman_fined_for...

Ludicrous. If you must run a light at least get on with it. Why stop on a railway line? Mind you she was right to finally drive though a barrier rather than stay on the line.

Not much sympathy for the car behind though- looked as if it intended to follow through on the red lights had she not stopped.

[Riley Blue]

mac96 said:

Mind you she was right to finally drive though a barrier rather than stay on the line.

However if she'd had the sense to drive forward she could have stopped clear of both tracks without damaging a barrier or another car.

[TooMany2cvs]

Riley Blue said:

mac96 said:

Mind you she was right to finally drive though a barrier rather than stay on the line.

However if she'd had the sense to drive forward she could have stopped clear of both tracks without damaging a barrier or another car.

If she'd had any sense at all, she wouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

[hornetrider]

Indeed. But she was a provisional licence holder at the age of 44, so I can understand the panic which ensued. She was accompanied, so the passenger in the car also takes some of the blame here.

[kiethton]

hornetrider said:

Indeed. But she was a provisional licence holder at the age of 44, so I can understand the panic which ensued. She was accompanied, so the passenger in the car also takes some of the blame here.

But she was driving around without L plates.....something tells me the passenger was there by chance

[mgtony]

The barrier on her side of the road in front of her didn't even start to come down until a few seconds after she had decided to stop.

[MikeyC]

mgtony said:

The barrier on her side of the road in front of her didn't even start to come down until a few seconds after she had decided to stop.

The exit barrier on her side is quite a bit later to drop, so her exit was clear to proceed !

Obvious brain-fade on her part

[Zetec-S]

kiethton said:

hornetrider said:

Indeed. But she was a provisional licence holder at the age of 44, so I can understand the panic which ensued. She was accompanied, so the passenger in the car also takes some of the blame here.

But she was driving around without L plates.....something tells me the passenger was there by chance

[mac96]

TooMany2cvs said:

Riley Blue said:

mac96 said:

Mind you she was right to finally drive though a barrier rather than stay on the line.

However if she'd had the sense to drive forward she could have stopped clear of both tracks without damaging a barrier or another car.

If she'd had any sense at all, she wouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

Both true!

[Algarve]

kiethton said:

But she was driving around without L plates.....something tells me the passenger was there by chance

Exactly.

If she had L plates on then maybe the car behind would have hung back enough to have avoided getting hit at all when it all went wrong.

[SnapShot]

Lost track of the amount of barriers Ive had to replace over the years thanks to idiots like this. No matter what technology the railway industry introduces on level crossings it can never account for human stupidity, its not like you don't get much warning that the barriers are going to lower.

[jdw100]

SnapShot said:

Lost track of the amount of barriers Ive had to replace over the years thanks to idiots like this. No matter what technology the railway industry introduces on level crossings it can never account for human stupidity, its not like you don't get much warning that the barriers are going to lower.

Seems a bit daft to continue with that technology then, doesn't it?

If people constantly find a way to bypass or attempt to bypass the safety system then the system needs changing. Otherwise you are just repeating the same mistake each time.

Over many years it's become obvious that education around the dangers of level crossings just doesn't work on a small percentage of the population. Either we accept this or change the safety system.

An obvious answer would be a barrier rising up from the ground. Like those big metal ones you get outside potential terrorist targets.

Of course I realise that this won't happen for reasons of cost.

[The Surveyor]

jdw100 said:

Seems a bit daft to continue with that technology then, doesn't it?

If people constantly find a way to bypass or attempt to bypass the safety system then the system needs changing. Otherwise you are just repeating the same mistake each time.

Over many years it's become obvious that education around the dangers of level crossings just doesn't work on a small percentage of the population. Either we accept this or change the safety system.

An obvious answer would be a barrier rising up from the ground. Like those big metal ones you get outside potential terrorist targets.

Of course I realise that this won't happen for reasons of cost.

So you would rather put the lives of the train drivers and passengers at risk to save a few quid on barrier replacements?

[Rick101]

This stuff happens far too often.

If it's not suicides it's stupidity.
I imagine the Railway would notably better if there were not constant trespass and suicide incidents.


Very little information in this report but there is a footbridge at that station to access the other platform. They didn't use it Regardless, no doubt some blame will be aportioned to Network Rail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41003486

Edited by Rick101 on Wednesday 23 August 07:34

[Djtemeka]

Why not build a small underpass? Sure it costs more but the trains run better due to no cars blocking them. Traffic runs freely due to no trains blocking them. Etc...

[Pothole]

Rick101 said:

This stuff happens far too often.

If it's not suicides it's stupidity.
I imagine the Railway would notably better if there were not constant trespass and suicide incidents.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41003486

Services would certainly be disrupted less.

[herewego]

jdw100 said:

SnapShot said:

Lost track of the amount of barriers Ive had to replace over the years thanks to idiots like this. No matter what technology the railway industry introduces on level crossings it can never account for human stupidity, its not like you don't get much warning that the barriers are going to lower.

Seems a bit daft to continue with that technology then, doesn't it?

If people constantly find a way to bypass or attempt to bypass the safety system then the system needs changing. Otherwise you are just repeating the same mistake each time.

Over many years it's become obvious that education around the dangers of level crossings just doesn't work on a small percentage of the population. Either we accept this or change the safety system.

An obvious answer would be a barrier rising up from the ground. Like those big metal ones you get outside potential terrorist targets.

Of course I realise that this won't happen for reasons of cost.

In this case and others I can think of a rising barrier would pick up the back of the car and hold it across the track.

[Rick101]

I remember then they fitted the rising bollard in York.

Great source of entertainment.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/5071484.Young_driv...

[Jabbah]

Should there be some kind of penalty for the qualified passenger in cases like this? Aren't they responsible for instruction?