Anyone UK based, paid non-Sterling?
Anyone UK based, paid non-Sterling?
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Croutons

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13,382 posts

196 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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There is a thread on this in Jobs from 2009, and I wondered if this might be a better place to ask-

Employed, UK based, but to be paid (I think) in CHF.

I am hoping the employer will be sorting tax and NI, but can't help feel this is likely to go wrong "because HMRC" if nothing else.

Anyone else in a similar position? Am not concerned about conversion to GBP, just the mechanics before this, as it's not contracting but ordinary employment.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,031 posts

265 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Croutons said:
(I think) in CHF.
Is that not the sort of detail one traditionally sorts out before starting?

hehe

Sorry, no help I know.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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I am in the same situation, current pay NI in the UK but tax in Germany, all OK with HMRC.

In negotiations now to move, physically, back to the Uk but retain a German contract and be paid in euros.

The plan is to agree an exchange rate in advance, which I currently have for NI contributions, my employer will then deduct the respective taxes at source based on the pre agreed rate, this should be all ok ...

A colleague currently has a German contract and based in spain, no currency issues but tax / NI is all paid locally.

All staff, by contract I just mean official location of employment.

Croutons

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

196 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Is that not the sort of detail one traditionally sorts out before starting?

hehe

Sorry, no help I know.
Lols! Yes, you'd think, however X was agreed in GBP, but they have decided to offer Y EUR, or Z CHF, and by any calculation X < Y < Z and not just in absolute terms as you'd expect! Y is at a rate so good even that's tempting!

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Croutons said:
There is a thread on this in Jobs from 2009, and I wondered if this might be a better place to ask-

Employed, UK based, but to be paid (I think) in CHF.

I am hoping the employer will be sorting tax and NI, but can't help feel this is likely to go wrong "because HMRC" if nothing else.

Anyone else in a similar position? Am not concerned about conversion to GBP, just the mechanics before this, as it's not contracting but ordinary employment.
Which bank branch will the money be paid into

Croutons

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

196 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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HSBC, who can accept any of them in a specific account, and won't charge me (beyond a crap exchange rate) to move to GBP if I take another currency, so access is not a big issue.

It's the mechanics of HMRC not fking everything up I'm interested in!

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Find out which tax office deals with that employer

Croutons

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

196 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Find out which tax office deals with that employer
I'd be the first in the UK!

Eric Mc

125,712 posts

295 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Where is the payroll administrator based?

How are they going to process your salary each month?

Will you be able to communicate with them?


SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Have a look at the HMRC web site, see what they say

Eric Mc

125,712 posts

295 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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If the individual lives in the UK, they are a UK tax resident and will be subject to UK tax and NI.

If they are employed, they must pay tax and NI under the UK PAYE system.

It does not matter where the EMPLOYER is actually based. And it does not matter what currency the employer choses to pay the salary in.

It's UK salary and should be taxed under UK tax rules.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Eric Mc said:
If the individual lives in the UK, they are a UK tax resident and will be subject to UK tax and NI.

If they are employed, they must pay tax and NI under the UK PAYE system.

It does not matter where the EMPLOYER is actually based. And it does not matter what currency the employer choses to pay the salary in.

It's UK salary and should be taxed under UK tax rules.
Maybe

Unless other factors are. involved

Eric Mc

125,712 posts

295 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Maybe

Unless other factors are. involved
What other factors?

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Eric Mc said:
SantaBarbara said:
Maybe

Unless other factors are. involved
What other factors?
For example, visiting forces, such as US service personnel

Eric Mc

125,712 posts

295 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Eric Mc said:
SantaBarbara said:
Maybe

Unless other factors are. involved
What other factors?
For example, visiting forces, such as US service personnel
They aren't deemed resident in the UK.

And pretty irrelevant to the OP's question.


Croutons

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

196 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Where is the payroll administrator based?

How are they going to process your salary each month?

Will you be able to communicate with them?
Basel,

Electronically/ bank transfer, post deductions at source [I hope] as an employee,

Yes.


And indeed, I will be UK res for tax purposes, so the other stuff is not relevant.

Eric Mc

125,712 posts

295 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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And will they be administering the UK PAYE/NI calculations/deductions/monthly reporting to HMRC from Basel or have they appointed a UK agent to run the UK payroll for them?


Croutons

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

196 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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TBD I think Eric, presumably a local (thus contracted, and therefore accountable) one could save a lot of hassle (theoretically at least)?

I shall enquire!

Eric Mc

125,712 posts

295 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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That's normally how it is done - and it is the best way of going about it.

If you are the only UK employee, it means you have a UK based entity you can talk to about salary and tax issues.