1973 S&S Swan 44
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T S Magnum

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487 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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A friend of mine bought "Four Winds" in 2014 from lay-up in the Netherlands. Since then he has fully refitted, cruised and raced her. I was lucky enough to be involved along the way. Until recently she was kept in Menton, near Monaco.

She is a beautiful boat, in looks, classic design and build quality. As would be expected she performs well too. I would compare to a Bentley in car terms perhaps.

He's put this blog together which may be of interest:

Swan 44 Four Winds

Huntsman

9,302 posts

279 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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In a world of so many utterly crap mass produced boats that are little more than floating caravans or willy waving devices, its delightful to see a proper yacht.

Two chums of mine co-own a Nic 55, fabulous old ship she is.

Phud

1,476 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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I did the same with this, 1898 Summer and Payne, now lying Falmouth.


T S Magnum

Original Poster:

487 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Very nice.

Phud

1,476 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Ta, she scare me with her sails up as she seems to want to push on, at 20 tons she requires forethought.

Huntsman

9,302 posts

279 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Phud said:
I did the same with this, 1898 Summer and Payne, now lying Falmouth.

Only recently I wondered how you got on with her. All good?

Phud

1,476 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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She is back on the water, unfortunately some of the work done, well was very poor, so taking action on that, overall, yes she is good, sails well, rigging is really easy and with almost 2 miles of rope it's fun.

It has been a challenge, one I would do again.

rossb

634 posts

250 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Phud said:
She is back on the water, unfortunately some of the work done, well was very poor, so taking action on that, overall, yes she is good, sails well, rigging is really easy and with almost 2 miles of rope it's fun.

It has been a challenge, one I would do again.
Both boats on this thread are beauties - but this is vintage yacht is something else - supremely elegant - i admire the commitment to getting her back on the water. My late Grandfather had a mooring at St Mawes & Helford River back in the day - 20 tons makes me think that spinning yours round in a marina like mylor focuses your boat handling!

Phud

1,476 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Cheers, she's just off Flushing so not too far from your grandfathers mooring.

More than the 20 tons is the 15 ft bowsprit which focus's the mind in moorings and marinas. I might have my eyes closed a lot mind you

ecsrobin

18,641 posts

194 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Whilst not an owner I do love a good looking yacht and you really can’t beat a swan.

At around 36ton she’s a lightweight wink sadly I can’t find a photo at the moment with the handbrake up.





T S Magnum

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487 posts

231 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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She's a 65? Lovely boat.

We raced with Tigris, a 74. She's some beast when up and running.


ecsrobin

18,641 posts

194 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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T S Magnum said:
She's a 65? Lovely boat.

We raced with Tigris, a 74. She's some beast when up and running.

Yes a 65 certainly more fun with a heavier sea and more silverware too!

Amazing how much space there is with that extra 9ft on Tigris.

We moor next to a Jeanneau 64 in the marina that’s prepping for the ARC. Despite the fact we are longer by 1ft the modern designs of yachts means there is so much more space and looks far bigger than us a big optical illusion.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

125 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Continuing the Swan love-in, I raced on Lulotte (55 Yawl) down in Dartmouth last week. We only had 6 kts TWS for most of the day but she managed to keep moving - picture from another day!


ecsrobin

18,641 posts

194 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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NickCQ said:
Continuing the Swan love-in, I raced on Lulotte (55 Yawl) down in Dartmouth last week. We only had 6 kts TWS for most of the day but she managed to keep moving - picture from another day!

Nice picture and good to see the mizzen kite.

I like this image from I believe another swan:


NickCQ

5,392 posts

125 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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ecsrobin said:
Nice picture and good to see the mizzen kite.

I like this image from I believe another swan:

That's a great picture - although IOR and bloopers is a little before my time smile

The mizzen kite is a bit of fun but a pig to worth with. The tack attaches way up to windward totally obscuring your view of anything from the pit. When it comes down you have two Tylaskas flying forward at around head height too.

Combine that with a spinnaker staysail and then try to crash gybe!

Markbarry1977

5,030 posts

132 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Huntsman said:
In a world of so many utterly crap mass produced boats that are little more than floating caravans or willy waving devices, its delightful to see a proper yacht.

Two chums of mine co-own a Nic 55, fabulous old ship she is.
Lovely boats. I spent a week sailing one out in the Solent based out of gosport.

ecsrobin

18,641 posts

194 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Markbarry1977 said:
Lovely boats. I spent a week sailing one out in the Solent based out of gosport.
JSASTC. I learnt to sail on the Vic 34’s

Markbarry1977

5,030 posts

132 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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ecsrobin said:
JSASTC. I learnt to sail on the Vic 34’s
Me to. Zidona.

Shame with manpower cuts it became nearly impossible for me to continue offshore as time for AT is pretty non existent. . Moved from Brize to waddington and it's a long drive now.

Huntsman

9,302 posts

279 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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ecsrobin said:
JSASTC. I learnt to sail on the Vic 34’s
My chums own what was once Broadsword, now Quailo III which was her name when she was an Admirals cup competitor. Currently for sale with Sandemans.

w1bbles

1,351 posts

165 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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Nic 55s are pretty but IMHO not as pretty as their smaller sisters the Nic 43s

Huntsman said:
chums own what was once Broadsword, now Quailo III which was her name when she was an Admirals cup competitor. Currently for sale with Sandemans.