I'm receiving someone's speed and parking fines
I'm receiving someone's speed and parking fines
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LaurasOtherHalf

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21,429 posts

226 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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I'll try and keep the points as precise and concise as i can;

  • The previous tennant of our house (a surgeon at our local hospital) has been done for speeding, somewhere down in Yorkshire.
  • He has now been done for a parking violation (via UKPC) at our local hospital
  • askmid shows the car registration as not being insured via their database
Both fines have been forwarded to our address, our family home which we own. I am surmising he still has his V5 registered to our address.

Having contacted the previous owner of our home (the surgeon's landlord) he has no forwarding address for him, in fact it was his knowledge that he had left the country. It appears he has now returned, or someone has begun using his car and has been illegally parking it at his former place of work.

It's not like it's causing me sleepless nights but I'm at a loss as to what to do-thoughts?

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Contact dvla to get their records amended.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Contact the address on the speeding fine letter and notify them of the facts and wrong or old address on the V5. That is probably another offence

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
* The previous tennant of our house (a surgeon at our local hospital) has been done for speeding, somewhere down in Yorkshire.
  • He has now been done for a parking violation (via UKPC) at our local hospital
  • askmid shows the car registration as not being insured via their database
Both fines have been forwarded to our address, our family home which we own. I am surmising he still has his V5 registered to our address.

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It's not like it's causing me sleepless nights but I'm at a loss as to what to do-thoughts?
Seems straightforward.
Write to DVLA and to everybody that's sending you s172s etc, and tell them "not at this address since <date>, no forwarding address".

silverfoxcc

8,469 posts

175 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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I would put a query on pepipoo.com on this as to the correct course of action. If you dont do it right , the PPC could get a CCJ/baliffs involved and your address could be listed as being 'dodgy' and you as a resident might not get a very good report should you require credit etc

LaurasOtherHalf

Original Poster:

21,429 posts

226 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Contact the address on the speeding fine letter and notify them of the facts and wrong or old address on the V5. That is probably another offence
I did this earlier this year, however it looks like nothing has changed with the DVLA as I have now received the parking fine. I am painfully aware of the futilities of trying to get the DVLA to change anything.

I have also been able to find who I think it is on both Facebook and LinkedIn, I have tried messaging on FB but have received no reply.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Next time you get anything addressed to him, put it straight back in the post, marked return to sender, wrong address

tigger1

8,476 posts

251 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Letter back to "whoever is writing to you" simply stating that you're not the owner of that vehicle - it belongs to a previous occupant, and give their name.

The rest of it isn't your problem.

gavgavgav

1,569 posts

259 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Just to check - Is it not an offence to open someone else's mail in the first place?

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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gavgavgav said:
Just to check - Is it not an offence to open someone else's mail in the first place?
No. Offence is doing something to the addressees detriment when you do.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Just simply put the envelope back in the post with 'Not known at address, return to sender' written on it.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
I have also been able to find who I think it is on both Facebook and LinkedIn, I have tried messaging on FB but have received no reply.
A straightforward Google search should bring up a surgeons name, even easier if you know the hospital they worked at. Even easier if you know their speciality.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
It appears he has now returned, or someone has begun using his car and has been illegally parking it at his former place of work.
If that is the case and they 'may' be working at the hospital I would stick the info into a big envelope with the most 'incriminating' on top and send it to the chief executive of the hospital and ask them to pass it on. smile

The Mad Monk

11,521 posts

147 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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janesmith1950 said:
gavgavgav said:
Just to check - Is it not an offence to open someone else's mail in the first place?
No. Offence is doing something to the addressees detriment when you do.
I think you mean yes.

Saleen836

12,507 posts

239 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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HantsRat said:
Just simply put the envelope back in the post with 'Not known at address, return to sender' written on it.
And you think debt collectors will just accept that and take no further action?

CoolHands

23,543 posts

225 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Chuck 'em in the bin. Jobs a goodun

foxbody-87

2,675 posts

196 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Saleen836 said:
And you think debt collectors will just accept that and take no further action?
Well, they might show up at your house, at which point you show them your ID and tell them to ps off.

Red Devil

13,520 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
I'll try and keep the points as precise and concise as i can;

  • The previous tennant of our house (a surgeon at our local hospital) has been done for speeding, somewhere down in Yorkshire.
  • He has now been done for a parking violation (via UKPC) at our local hospital
  • askmid shows the car registration as not being insured via their database
Both fines have been forwarded to our address, our family home which we own. I am surmising he still has his V5 registered to our address.

Having contacted the previous owner of our home (the surgeon's landlord) he has no forwarding address for him, in fact it was his knowledge that he had left the country. It appears he has now returned, or someone has begun using his car and has been illegally parking it at his former place of work.

It's not like it's causing me sleepless nights but I'm at a loss as to what to do-thoughts?
The parking violation is not a fine: it's an invoice from a PPC. Unlike the speeding offence it's governed by civil law (of contract).

LaurasOtherHalf said:
SantaBarbara said:
Contact the address on the speeding fine letter and notify them of the facts and wrong or old address on the V5. That is probably another offence
I did this earlier this year, however it looks like nothing has changed with the DVLA as I have now received the parking fine. I am painfully aware of the futilities of trying to get the DVLA to change anything.
That is because only the RK can change their own address record on a V5C. The DVLA won't do it on your or anyone else's say so.

You can transfer a vehicle online - https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle/y/no
A photocard D/L can be amended using the Government Gateway - https://motoring.direct.gov.uk/service/DvoConsumer...
Yet you can only do a simple change of your own address on a V5C by snail mail - https://www.gov.uk/change-name-address-v5c

Having to field vehicular transgressions by scofflaws who have previously lived at your address is a monumental PITA.

Sending a PPC PCN back 'not at this address' may well not work. They will have heard that old chestnut before and may just carry on regardless.
Because all they have to go on is the DVLA record (which the latter won't change). You may have to provide them with some documentary evidence to get them to desist.
Ask me how I know...

speedyguy said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
It appears he has now returned, or someone has begun using his car and has been illegally parking it at his former place of work.
If that is the case and they 'may' be working at the hospital I would stick the info into a big envelope with the most 'incriminating' on top and send it to the chief executive of the hospital and ask them to pass it on. smile
Nice one. thumbup Might set the cat among the pigeons. smile

ashleyman

7,284 posts

129 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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If you're not the registered keeper then the DVLA do not want to hear from you and it doesn't matter how many letters you write they won't do anything.

Best you can do is RTS on envelope and send them back.

When the debt collectors start coming. They're usually happy with a form of ID and they'll go on their way.

Nothing you can do about it. We have the same thing and luckily it is calming down after nearly 2 years of living at our current address.

Wings

5,970 posts

245 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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What I did in a similar situation, when I started receiving both speeding and parking tickets for a former tenant, together with correspondence from DVLA.

My enquiries revealed that the former tenant, had purchased a new car, and rather than register the car at his new address, had decided to use his former/my address to tax and insure the car.

I opened all the correspondence, enclosing a letter explaining what my former tenant had been guilty of doing, and returning all correspondence marked “returned to sender”. The local Council’s parking services replied explaining that until the owner of the vehicle amended the registered address of the vehicle, then they were legally required to keep sending correspondence to my address.

The last correspondence I received came from a Liverpool debt collecting company, and following exchanges in emails, the matter was brought to a satisfactory conclusion.


northwest monkey

6,370 posts

219 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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silverfoxcc said:
I would put a query on pepipoo.com on this as to the correct course of action. If you dont do it right , the PPC could get a CCJ/baliffs involved and your address could be listed as being 'dodgy' and you as a resident might not get a very good report should you require credit etc
This is an urban myth - credit scoring is based on the individual - not the address. There isn't a list of "dodgy" addresses.

I'm a landlord and have had some "interesting" tenants in the past. Bailiff companies are used to dealing with the sort of people they are after & are pretty easy to deal with if you are legit / not the person they are looking for.

Either phone DVLA if you have nothing better to do with your life, or simply return it with "not known at address" written on envelope. It will be sorted. I've had court summons and all sorts coming through doors & the returned envelope is by far the quickest & easiest way of dealing with it.