Do Small Cars Get Bullied?

Do Small Cars Get Bullied?

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Ron99

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1,985 posts

95 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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As someone who regularly drives both small and large cars, I think small cars are much more likely to be bullied, much less likely to be treated with respect and much less likely to have another driver be kind to them.

Do you agree or disagree?

And if you agree, at what size class of car does the bullying mostly stop?

swisstoni

19,662 posts

293 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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I think they do.

Thermobaric

725 posts

134 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Depends who's doing the bullying. Generally an angry white van man. So you'd need some sort of tank or another big van.

willisit

2,152 posts

245 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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I have a Viva and a Mustang.. but it's not limited to that, I bike as well and I do wonder why people think I have the same braking power... but in any case, I'm tailgated in the small ones, and not in the Mustang. I tend to ignore it. I won't speed up when I'm at the limit, nor will I pull over so they can speed off (in zones with kids, pets etc..). A bit of road etiquette would be nice.. but alas, never gonna happen.

I should point out it's often BY large vehicles. I wonder if in a Range Rover the sense of speed is so poor the drivers think they're okay? That or they're just a-holes. :/

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

122 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Some Volvos try to bully smaller cars,

But it is interesting to see the Volvo react differently to a Land Rover defender down a country lane

MitchT

16,678 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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It's basically like a pecking order based on height. Anything that isn't a white van or an SUV gets bullied by anything that is. If I had a pound for every time I've had a van, SUV or crossover up my arse I'd be quite a wealthy man by now.

chrisb92

1,051 posts

138 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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willisit said:
I have a Viva and a Mustang.. but it's not limited to that, I bike as well and I do wonder why people think I have the same braking power... but in any case, I'm tailgated in the small ones, and not in the Mustang. I tend to ignore it. I won't speed up when I'm at the limit, nor will I pull over so they can speed off (in zones with kids, pets etc..). A bit of road etiquette would be nice.. but alas, never gonna happen.

I should point out it's often BY large vehicles. I wonder if in a Range Rover the sense of speed is so poor the drivers think they're okay? That or they're just a-holes. :/
You know what would be good road etiquette? Pulling over into the left hand lane when trundling along at 70mph.

HannsG

3,115 posts

148 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Panda 100HP driver here. Yes very much so...

Coming from an M3 it's been a revelation lol.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

212 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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drove a luton van for 3 weeks last month...

I love the "might is right" unwritten law of the road... when im in the van hehe

graham22

3,311 posts

219 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Yes - noticeable difference in other drivers attitudes when driving girlfriends Mini Cooper compared to my BMW 330d.

More a case of people just pushing their luck when should be giving way or pulling out of junctions causing you to slow rather than being overly dangerous.

AJB88

14,149 posts

185 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Thermobaric said:
Generally an angry white van man

Usually a BMW X5, Range Rover or other Chelsea tractors.

hondansx

4,689 posts

239 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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MitchT said:
It's basically like a pecking order based on height. Anything that isn't a white van or an SUV gets bullied by anything that is. If I had a pound for every time I've had a van, SUV or crossover up my arse I'd be quite a wealthy man by now.
One thing to comment on here though is SUVs are a lot taller. Sometimes they look like they are tailgating, when they're not as close as you think.

AH33

2,066 posts

149 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Probably related, I rarely let slow looking cars out (small or otherwise) because there's a roughly 100% chance that they'll want to drive slower than me.

S100HP

13,278 posts

181 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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HannsG said:
Panda 100HP driver here. Yes very much so...

Coming from an M3 it's been a revelation lol.
Yep, exactly the same here having come from a V70R. I find people just change lane without a second thought to where I am. Maybe its because they expect me to be slower?

KarlMac

4,512 posts

155 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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I think there's a confusion between causality and correlation here. I think the truth of the matter is road based bullies / aggressive drivers will naturally gravitate towards large SUV etc... I'm sure there's a case to be answered about deep seated insecurity issues and the idea of perceived wealth / success by driving a larger vehicle but I think this can be summed up with the statement that some people are just dheads.

Flibble

6,516 posts

195 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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AH33 said:
Probably related, I rarely let slow looking cars out (small or otherwise) because there's a roughly 100% chance that they'll want to drive slower than me.
Similar to how I rarely let SUV drivers out because they're a bunch of self-entitled tts, for the most part.

jhonn

1,622 posts

163 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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My daughters have remarked that they get bullied when they're driving their small Fiats (Panda/500) on the single-track roads from our house in to town, bigger cars not slowing down as they're approaching, not moving over in the road, etc.

When I'm driving one of their cars I just sit right in the centre of the road, slowly coming to a halt as the bigger car approachs; you'll see the look of realisation on the drivers face as they realise this small car is not performing to type (and there's an ugly, shaven-headed man driving) and they slow down and move over - problem averted.

Bullying? don't let it happen to you, with the right approach and frame of mind it can (mostly) be avoided.

HannsG

3,115 posts

148 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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S100HP said:
Yep, exactly the same here having come from a V70R. I find people just change lane without a second thought to where I am. Maybe its because they expect me to be slower?
They do expect you to be slower. Its frustrating.....

Moreso when the idiots are pulling out of junctions and umming and ahhhing and then pull out thinking you are to slow.

Little do they realise in the city the Panda 100HP is fairly nippy and can actually do over 30mph!!!

otolith

61,125 posts

218 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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chrisb92 said:
willisit said:
I have a Viva and a Mustang.. but it's not limited to that, I bike as well and I do wonder why people think I have the same braking power... but in any case, I'm tailgated in the small ones, and not in the Mustang. I tend to ignore it. I won't speed up when I'm at the limit, nor will I pull over so they can speed off (in zones with kids, pets etc..). A bit of road etiquette would be nice.. but alas, never gonna happen.

I should point out it's often BY large vehicles. I wonder if in a Range Rover the sense of speed is so poor the drivers think they're okay? That or they're just a-holes. :/
You know what would be good road etiquette? Pulling over into the left hand lane when trundling along at 70mph.
See a lot of kids, pets, etc on the motorways round your way?

I assumed the guy was talking about single carriageways in 30mph built up areas.

Pica-Pica

15,107 posts

98 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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graham22 said:
Yes - noticeable difference in other drivers attitudes when driving girlfriends Mini Cooper compared to my BMW 330d.

More a case of people just pushing their luck when should be giving way or pulling out of junctions causing you to slow rather than being overly dangerous.
Yes, 335d and wife's Fabia. I can drive through the same speed limit and be tailgated in one not the other. On the other hand, I proudly did a well-timed overtake in the Skoda, up a windy hill past a slow truck and a fairly fast car behind it, the fast car was too close to observe an opening gap, and clear road with no side entrances.