Smooth Operator
Smooth Operator
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cjacks

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82 posts

101 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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OK - so I'm a month into TVR ownership, and so far I'm lovin' it. The cynics (or realists) amongst you will probably tell me all that will change - probably when I least expect it - but meanwhile, I will maintain my grin and enjoy owning a real car.

I was fortunate in buying a well cared-for S3 from @Griffinr, and so far I've been able to enjoy some great roof-off summer runs around the nether-reaches of Lincolnshire. However, nothing's perfect and I can't resist the temptation to fiddle, with a little bit of prodding, poking and cleaning just to see exactly what I've let myself in for.

One thing I have noticed was a dip in the engine rev's when asking for gas from idle, or at low rev's. However, @Griffinr supplied an impressive folder of stuff with the car which included an article from a 1990's edition of 'Car Mechanics'. This covered the Ford EFI system and being quite sad, I sat and read it in bed this morning. Previously believing that EMU's are basically evil, a lot of things began to make sense and I decreed an afternoon of fiddling - with impressive results.

This is probably old-hat to many of you, but to anyone who might not consider themselves to be too competent at engine stuff - take heart, because with basic tools, careful application of caustic soda and WD40, I have transformed the performance of my S3.

The Car Mechanics article talked about 'cleaning the throttle body'. However, with no carburettor in sight, I wasn't too sure what this was, but with a quick visit to Google, a bit of logic, two jubilee clips and six bolts later, the offending bit of engine was on the workbench. It looked filthy inside and out. It also looked remotely familiar, with two butterfly valves and a couple of springs and a spindle. So, I stripped it down and began cleaning. There's also some sort of gizmo which senses the throttle position - this was crusty and seemed a bit sticky, so it go a seeing to as well.

Happy with the new shiny version, I put it back together and noticed some other wizzardry which is apparently an 'idle control valve'. Right. That was coming off as well (anyone know it there should be a gasket between this and the throttle housing?). Cleaned with a wire brush, WD40, scotchbrite pad and a cloth. Lovely. Smear of Red Hermetite forgood luck and clag that back on as well.

Wow! What a transformation. Engine fires up immediately and idles smoothly. Blip the throttle? Yup, that works now - cat exits garden an 30,000 feet and neighbour's children run for cover. Test run needed - what a difference - smooth acceleration, no 'pop' from exhaust on overrun and smooth tickover.,

Right. Tappets next. What's that all about......bounce




yknot

8,997 posts

159 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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Hi Chris and welcome to TVR ownership!

You appear to be made of the 'right stuff' and are not afraid to get stuck in and investigate, well done!

Having cleaned the gunk from the throttle body, TPS (throttle position sensor), and ICV (idle control valve) and have seen an improvement on idle and acceleration response (and scared the local wildlife) I would recommend leaving it at that for the moment as you have used all your lucky charm for this month so drive it and enjoy!! wink

Next full moon when the stars are aligned, you may wish to chance the removal of all the various components in the way to enable removal of the rocker covers!!!! Get back to us when you feel lucky!!! laughlaugh

TVRees

1,086 posts

133 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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Yes, welcome to TVR ownership.
Brilliant write up and you have quickly discovered the joy of the TVR ! Keep up with the good work and don't be afraid to get stuck in. The lads on here are a fantastic bunch and will answer any questions which you may have.

Griffinr

1,017 posts

195 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Hi Chris, glad you're enjoying the car, it's probably 8 years since the throttle body was off so due a good clean. It had terrible idle problems when I bought it which took a while to sort. Must admit I quite liked the exhaust pops on over run though. The cats and neighbours get used to the noise eventually, the only complaint I had was after I stopped leaving home at 6:30 in the morning a one of them overslept.
Rob.

cjacks

Original Poster:

82 posts

101 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Hello Rob - glad you're still in here. Hope you're enjoying the Z3. I've been using the TVR at any opportunity, and it's everything that you said it was. Thanks again.

This seems like a friendly place to hang out and share information, so I'll be back!

jimed

1,508 posts

227 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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As you suggest there should be a gasket between the idle control valve and the plenum. I used to make one from a corn flakes packet or similar and put a little vaseline on each side of it; that seemed to work fine. Think I made a tracing from the valve when off and then made a gasket to fit and also a spare one so it was ready for the next time as it does help to clean the idle control vaslve every now and then.
Jim

cjacks

Original Poster:

82 posts

101 months

Saturday 9th September 2017
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Thanks Jim - good info. I defaulted to a smear of Hermetite, just in case it was sucking air where it shouldn't be.

Griffinr

1,017 posts

195 months

Saturday 9th September 2017
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Never had a gasket when I had the car and the new ISCV I bought but never fitted didn't have one either, so I think I went for a smear of something or other as well.

phillpot

17,436 posts

204 months

Saturday 9th September 2017
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jimed said:
As you suggest there should be a gasket between the idle control valve and the plenum.
One in every "top end" gasket set ........... wink