Is there a legal limit for how many can stay in a 2 bed let?

[robbocop33]

Just wondering if there's a legal limit for how many people can stay in a 2 bed flat?Is five adult gypsies and three dogs pushing it?Thanks.

[Venturist]

Read up on the rules surrounding HMO - Houses of Multiple Occupation - it differs slightly by council. Think it applies here.

Worst case scenario you could be liable for a massive fine, if caught by the council.

[superlightr]

who owns it? up to them really - different laws on letting it out.

more info pls

[TooMany2cvs]

robbocop33 said:

Just wondering if there's a legal limit for how many people can stay in a 2 bed flat?Is five adult gypsies and three dogs pushing it?Thanks.

Two bed flat might be perfectly fine. A couple (or two people of the same sex) in each bedroom, and the fifth person in the living room.

Shelter - https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/repa...
Housing Act 1985 - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/68/part/X...

If it's statutorily overcrowded, that's not illegal in and of itself.

The landlord might have something to say about it, though, if it's in breach of the tenancy. TBH, I'd have thought the dogs would be the most likely issue...

[donkmeister]

robbocop33 said:

Just wondering if there's a legal limit for how many people can stay in a 2 bed flat?Is five adult gypsies and tree dags pushing it?Thanks.

FTFY

[SantaBarbara]

robbocop33 said:

Just wondering if there's a legal limit for how many people can stay in a 2 bed flat?Is five adult gypsies and three dogs pushing it?Thanks.

Is it a purpose built flat? Or has it been re purposed?

[Chester draws]

SantaBarbara said:

robbocop33 said:

Just wondering if there's a legal limit for how many people can stay in a 2 bed flat?Is five adult gypsies and three dogs pushing it?Thanks.

Is it a purpose built flat? Or has it been re purposed?

Are you going to come back with an insightful and factually accurate reply based upon the answer OP gives to your question, or are you just curious as to the design of the flat in question?

[ColinM50]

If as you say they're gypsies then different rules apply. They can do what they like and no-one can touch them, or if someone complains they get a broken face

[1173russ]

I believe it depends on what country they're from,,

[FrankAbagnale]

Do they own the flat or are they tenants?

[E36GUY]

I would think that it depends on the tenancy.

If I let a flat to a single individual, I would expect it to be them and them alone living there. If they then moved in a boyfriend or girlfriend I would expect to be informed and would probably ask for them on the tenancy too so the same would apply for five I guess.

But 5 adults (and dags) in a 2 bed flat seems a bit busy.

[robbocop33]

FrankAbagnale said:

Do they own the flat or are they tenants?

They are tenants, it's a private let.

[Alucidnation]

No legal problem I don't think.

Did you want to try and fit more in?

[konark]

For the landlord the problem is 5 tenants in 2 bedrooms means the flat becomes a House of multiple occupation or 'HMO' unless they are all one family, which means the landlord has increased obligations in regards to fire alarms, safety etc and also has to obtain a licence from the council which are not cheap (think £500-1000).

possibly landlord thinks only 2 are living there. possibly hasn't got a licence for HMO.

[austinsmirk]

max legal occupants in a 2 bed flat (i.e own door, not a HMO etc) is 5 adults.

children under 10 years count as 0.5.

[hutchst]

Venturist said:

Read up on the rules surrounding HMO - Houses of Multiple Occupation - it differs slightly by council. Think it applies here.

Worst case scenario you could be liable for a massive fine, if caught by the council.

They're gypsies. If it's a problem they can just hitch the flat up to the back of the Range Rover and move it to the next council.