Fined for parking on own land....?

[MoggieMinor]

Nothing to do do with me but I thought it worth sharing. Piece from the local paper.

When I saw the photo I thought fair enough,pay up and stop using the grass outside your house to dump your car on, parking on grass verges really winds me up. But! Its the blokes own land!

Wonder who maintains it though...

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/sta...

[Jag_NE]

he should get it block paved or tarmac'd if he wants to park on it every day for christs sake, cars bellied up on grass verges look like a right mess and in the winter they can get churned up.

[TooMany2cvs]

Doesn't look much like he's been parking on that grass every day for 30 years...

[WinstonWolf]

How can the council class it as a highway when they don't own it?

[bigandclever]

He's a shoe-in for this facebook group ... https://www.facebook.com/angrypeopleinlocalnewspap...

[TooMany2cvs]

WinstonWolf said:

How can the council class it as a highway when they don't own it?

Easily. They don't own every bit of public highway, even adopted.

[PorkInsider]

bigandclever said:

He's a shoe-in for this facebook group ... https://www.facebook.com/angrypeopleinlocalnewspap...

He's already on there.

[cbmotorsport]

What a total and utter waste of everyone's time.

[WinstonWolf]

TooMany2cvs said:

WinstonWolf said:

How can the council class it as a highway when they don't own it?

Easily. They don't own every bit of public highway, even adopted.

Under which statute?

[TooMany2cvs]

WinstonWolf said:

TooMany2cvs said:

WinstonWolf said:

How can the council class it as a highway when they don't own it?

Easily. They don't own every bit of public highway, even adopted.

Under which statute?

You're asking if there's a law that says local authorities don't have to own all bits of public highway?

Perhaps a better question would be to ask whether there's a law that says they DO...? (There isn't, and they don't have to.)

[WinstonWolf]

TooMany2cvs said:

WinstonWolf said:

TooMany2cvs said:

WinstonWolf said:

How can the council class it as a highway when they don't own it?

Easily. They don't own every bit of public highway, even adopted.

Under which statute?

You're asking if there's a law that says local authorities don't have to own all bits of public highway?

Perhaps a better question would be to ask whether there's a law that says they DO...? (There isn't, and they don't have to.)

I am asking that, yes.

[fido]

There must be a convenant on it, or else he could do what he liked with his land e.g. wall it off, pave it, park on it etc. Looks like all his neighbours have the same issue!

[barryrs]

Isn't he causing an obstruction in visibility by parking there.

If the traffic is moving fairly quickly pulling off a neighboring driveway will be made difficult by him parking on that verge.

[Aretnap]

WinstonWolf said:

TooMany2cvs said:

WinstonWolf said:

How can the council class it as a highway when they don't own it?

Easily. They don't own every bit of public highway, even adopted.

Under which statute?

Common law. A highway is any route over which the public have a right to pass and repass.Ownership is irrelevant. Public rights of way which go across farmers' fields are highways - the council don't on them either.

It's not uncommon for a homeowner to own a chunk of the land the carriageway is built on as well - it doesn't give them the right to block the highway.

https://www.norfolk.gov.uk/roads-and-transport/roa...

[ED209]

If its his land can he not just fence it off and make an extra bit of driveway?

[Swervin_Mervin]

fido said:

There must be a convenant on it, or else he could do what he liked with his land e.g. wall it off, pave it, park on it etc. Looks like all his neighbours have the same issue!

If it's adopted highway then he has no right to park there, unless there is a formal agreement to do so, which there won't be. Ownership doesn't matter a jot when it comes to adopted highway land.

[Nickyboy]

As there is a yellow line on the road, does the restrictions on this not extend as far as the end of his drive? When i lived at home we had a similar verge until one day a pavement was built the length of the road, there were no highway markers anywhere along the road to mark the boundary edge

[Kuji]

fido said:

There must be a convenant on it, or else he could do what he liked with his land e.g. wall it off, pave it, park on it etc. Looks like all his neighbours have the same issue!

I was thinking along the same lines.

If it was truly included within the usable boundary of their land, his driveway paving and shrubs would be on the pathway edge.


It wouldn't be the first time a journalist neglected to include an inconvenient bit of information in a story.

[Kuji]

ED209 said:

If its his land can he not just fence it off and make an extra bit of driveway?

Only, if there is a countrywide problem of feral zombies.

[MJG280]

From my experience I would say that the 'New' towns will be the only towns where the Council own the subsoil beneath the adopted highway. An adopted highway over-rides the ownership rights. The utilities can go almost as deep as they like without needing to compensate the subsoil owner

Similarly with Village Greens, ownership of the land is inconsequential as the Village Green status over-rides ownership.