Hesitancy at low revs in a Vanquish Volante
Hesitancy at low revs in a Vanquish Volante
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AstonZagato

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14,292 posts

241 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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I seem to be having some issues with hesitancy at low revs in my 2106 Vanquish Volante.

It seems to be most obvious when decelerating to a sharp stop (so coming to the end of a fast dual carriageway) and then immediately rolling onto the accelerator. Rather than the normal immediate pick up, there is sometimes a "wait-1-2-go" feeling. There is occasionally even a "wait-cough-go". Sometimes the tickover is a bit lumpy. I have even had it stall in neutral at a set of lights. Dealer had it for a couple of days and couldn't find any error codes or even replicate the problem.

Can happen when warm or cold. Seems better on higher octane fuel but that might be my imagination. I only ever drive it in sport mode.

I've had three DB9s, a DBS prior to this so I think I am familiar enough with the low rev pick-up characteristics of the V12 engine to know that it's a bit off.

Anyone experienced the same or similar?

M5MarkM

1,686 posts

202 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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I had the same thing but at higher revs and in 5th and 6th gear. Happened a few times now. Around 5200 rpm it feels like the fuel is cut t off just for a second and then power comes back in. Very strange but given the speeds involved not something the dealer can look at. They’ve done a full data download on mine now and I’m waiting for them to come back and confirm....

AstonZagato

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14,292 posts

241 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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Sounds similar. Mine almost feels like fuel starvation or the traction control pulling power.

hashluck

1,626 posts

306 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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I had it when I had t refuel with ropey French supermarket fuel. Couple of tanks of V-Power later and I have not noticed it since but also have not driven it much in anger either

AstonZagato

Original Poster:

14,292 posts

241 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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I have filled and emptied it twice on Shell's top grade fuel. Coughed at me again this morning (hence the post).

AstonZagato

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14,292 posts

241 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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The Vanquish decided to throw its toys out the pram. Engine check light on. Red and amber warning triangles for ‘urgent service’ and ‘emissions service’. This is the car the dealer said was fine a month ago.
It was recovered to the dealer. The warning lights have gone of their own accord. The car is supposedly ‘running perfectly’. The warning lights were a ‘misfire on the main bank’.
The techs have driven the car and think its normal.
I pointed out that I have 17 years and c100,000 miles of experience driving the Aston 6.0l V12. I think I know what the engine should feel like better than they do - and they thought it ‘normal and fine’ before it started having a hissy fit (when I had told them it wasn’t right).

Ho hum.

dbs2000

2,756 posts

223 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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My DBS had this recently and it was fixed by Mike and the guys at BR. It was dead sensors in the exhaust manifold, I had no warning lights or errors either but it made the car feel crap to drive.

AstonZagato

Original Poster:

14,292 posts

241 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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I took my car for a drive with the tech and then drove the dealer's Vanq S as a comparison.

The problem has been that, when the car is transitioning, in first gear, from a trailing throttle to power on, it is either "wait-one-go" (or "wait-cough-go) rather than just "go".

The hesitation was also there in the S but less pronounced - so I think it might be in part the gearbox/throttle mapping. The delay on my car is perhaps half a second, the Vanq S a quarter second. Not as bad but still there. The tech agreed my car was worse (though I suspect he thought I was being overly sensitive).

However, the car also did its "wait-cough-go" and the tech confirmed that behaviour was definitely not right. He suspects a dirty throttle body but will discuss with the head tech on Monday. More data will be sent to AM and more engine and wiring tests on Monday.

AMDBSVNick

7,221 posts

193 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Watching with interest as seriously thinking about Vanquish S scratchchin

hashluck

1,626 posts

306 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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AMDBSVNick said:
Watching with interest as seriously thinking about Vanquish S scratchchin
Have you driven one Nick?

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

157 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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AMDBSVNick said:
Watching with interest as seriously thinking about Vanquish S scratchchin
Instead of the DBSVM or as well as?

LordBretSinclair

4,306 posts

208 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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I had a similar problem on my V8 Vantage Roadster.

I would also get the "cough" when driving on the motorway at a fixed throttle setting for some time and then "flooring" it to pass. Slight hesitation, cough and then go.

Will at AJ Tech cleaned the throttle body during my service this week and this seems to have cleared the "fault" - drives like a dream now.

Hope you get sorted too smile

AMDBSVNick

7,221 posts

193 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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hashluck said:
Have you driven one Nick?
No matey. Waiting to hear from Nottingham.
V8V Pete said:
Instead of the DBSVM or as well as?
Instead of if I can make the numbers work.

hashluck

1,626 posts

306 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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AMDBSVNick said:
hashluck said:
Have you driven one Nick?
No matey. Waiting to hear from Nottingham.
V8V Pete said:
Instead of the DBSVM or as well as?
Instead of if I can make the numbers work.
It is an amazing thing, though you may find it harder to love than some given it is a full auto smile

qwick69

324 posts

122 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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Same situation as me . Took a vanquish volante out yesterday , loved it . Completely different from my DBSV.
However , as I love the DBSV so much , I am working hard with figures to have both :-)

AMDBSVNick

7,221 posts

193 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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qwick69 said:
Same situation as me . Took a vanquish volante out yesterday , loved it . Completely different from my DBSV.
However , as I love the DBSV so much , I am working hard with figures to have both :-)
The "S"?

qwick69

324 posts

122 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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If I went for the S , I would need to let go of the DBS , so looking at a very nearly new vanquish.
Unless I pull off a very good deal next week :-)

qwick69

324 posts

122 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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If I went for the S , I would need to let go of the DBS , so looking at a very nearly new vanquish.
Unless I pull off a very good deal next week :-)

AMDBSVNick

7,221 posts

193 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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hashluck said:
AMDBSVNick said:
Watching with interest as seriously thinking about Vanquish S scratchchin
Have you driven one Nick?
I have now, its epic biggrin

hashluck

1,626 posts

306 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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AMDBSVNick said:
hashluck said:
AMDBSVNick said:
Watching with interest as seriously thinking about Vanquish S scratchchin
Have you driven one Nick?
I have now, its epic biggrin
Isn't is just smile

Not quite epic enough to tempt me out of my non S (as I will never easily replicate my spec) but boy oh boy if you drive one you want one - I drove an S for 3 days so can vouch for it beyond the usual ten minute blast as well. This is a (super)car that works in the real world.

Time for some man maths Nick!