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matrignano

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4,678 posts

236 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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I like to think I'm reasonably handy in a kitchen, but I'm utterly useless at sauces.
Not pasta sauces (I'm Italian so obviously an expert in that field!), I mean the French type variety.

I tried making a saffron sauce the other day, followed a recipe to the letter, and it came out an inedible mess.

Can someone please suggest a few simple sauce recipes that I can practice with? Preferably not too buttery.

Melman Giraffe

6,794 posts

244 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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Here is a simple peppercorn sauce for Steak

Ingredients

2 to 3 tablespoons peppercorns
60g butter
1 shallot, minced
100ml brandy
100ml beef stock
60ml double cream
Method

1. Crush the peppercorns slightly, either using a mortar and pestle or a rolling pin.
2. Melt the butter in a saucepan over medium high heat. Add the shallots and saute until soft, about 3 minutes. Add the brandy and boil for another 3 minutes. Add beef stock and boil another 3 minutes.
3. Finally, add the cream and reduce the heat to medium. Heat through, but don't allow the peppercorn sauce to boil. Once the sauce is at your desired thickness, test for seasoning. Add salt if necessary, then serve with your favourite steak.

TIGA84

5,550 posts

257 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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I think a lot of classical sauces are very dependant on the ability to reduce liquids properly and accurately, along with using really good stocks and constantly tasting - its not easy that's for sure, especially if you've not tasted what it should be like in the first place and at what stage it tasted right. The wrong heat at the wrong time will screw it pretty quick, and often there are many stages to making a good one so don't feel bad.

Get Larousse and practice is all I can say, there are a lot of base sauces that change with simple additions (bearnaise/hollandaise etc) so get them right and the rest should follow with the fancier stuff.

Always use double cream in a sauce that requires cream is my one piece of advice.

I'm rubbish by the way.

matrignano

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4,678 posts

236 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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Melman Giraffe said:
3. Finally, add the cream and reduce the heat to medium. Heat through, but don't allow the peppercorn sauce to boil. Once the sauce is at your desired thickness, test for seasoning. Add salt if necessary, then serve with your favourite steak.
Thanks, will try that.

The saffron sauce I messed up recently had a similar last step. When I poured the cream it curdled almost immediately. Do I have to lower the heat before pouring the cream?

TIGA84

5,550 posts

257 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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matrignano said:
Melman Giraffe said:
3. Finally, add the cream and reduce the heat to medium. Heat through, but don't allow the peppercorn sauce to boil. Once the sauce is at your desired thickness, test for seasoning. Add salt if necessary, then serve with your favourite steak.
Thanks, will try that.

The saffron sauce I messed up recently had a similar last step. When I poured the cream it curdled almost immediately. Do I have to lower the heat before pouring the cream?
Was it single cream or double?

21TonyK

13,123 posts

235 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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Just google "mother sauces". Once you nail these 99% of everything else is a derivative.

High fat content is cream always seems to cure most problems and a very high speed blender will sort out any oil emulsions.

It really is just practice, attention to detail and taking a lot of care.

matrignano

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4,678 posts

236 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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TIGA84 said:
Was it single cream or double?
The recipe called for creme freche. It curdled immediately into several tiny lumps rather than incorporating into the stocky liquid.

TIGA84

5,550 posts

257 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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matrignano said:
The recipe called for creme freche. It curdled immediately into several tiny lumps rather than incorporating into the stocky liquid.
I'd have whisked the crap out of it to emulsify it again, either that or it wasn't high enough in fat content - light creme fraiche by any chance?

Weirdhead

87 posts

131 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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Melman Giraffe said:
Here is a simple peppercorn sauce for Steak

Ingredients

2 to 3 tablespoons peppercorns
60g butter
1 shallot, minced
100ml brandy
100ml beef stock
60ml double cream
Method

1. Crush the peppercorns slightly, either using a mortar and pestle or a rolling pin.
2. Melt the butter in a saucepan over medium high heat. Add the shallots and saute until soft, about 3 minutes. Add the brandy and boil for another 3 minutes. Add beef stock and boil another 3 minutes.
3. Finally, add the cream and reduce the heat to medium. Heat through, but don't allow the peppercorn sauce to boil. Once the sauce is at your desired thickness, test for seasoning. Add salt if necessary, then serve with your favourite steak.
When do you add the peppercorns to the sauce? If I follow your instructions I'll have a brandy cream sauce and some crushed peppercorns in my mortar

Melman Giraffe

6,794 posts

244 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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Weirdhead said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Here is a simple peppercorn sauce for Steak

Ingredients

2 to 3 tablespoons peppercorns
60g butter
1 shallot, minced
100ml brandy
100ml beef stock
60ml double cream
Method

1. Crush the peppercorns slightly, either using a mortar and pestle or a rolling pin.
2. Melt the butter in a saucepan over medium high heat. Add the shallots and saute until soft, about 3 minutes. Add the brandy and boil for another 3 minutes. Add beef stock and boil another 3 minutes.
3. Finally, add the cream and reduce the heat to medium. Heat through, but don't allow the peppercorn sauce to boil. Once the sauce is at your desired thickness, test for seasoning. Add salt if necessary, then serve with your favourite steak.
When do you add the peppercorns to the sauce? If I follow your instructions I'll have a brandy cream sauce and some crushed peppercorns in my mortar
After the Brandy just before the beef stock so the flavor infuses, Green peppercorns can be quite punchy so be careful and taste as you go

TeeRev

1,728 posts

177 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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Melman Giraffe said:
Weirdhead said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Here is a simple peppercorn sauce for Steak

Ingredients

2 to 3 tablespoons peppercorns
60g butter
1 shallot, minced
100ml brandy
100ml beef stock
60ml double cream
Method

1. Crush the peppercorns slightly, either using a mortar and pestle or a rolling pin.
2. Melt the butter in a saucepan over medium high heat. Add the shallots and saute until soft, about 3 minutes. Add the brandy and boil for another 3 minutes. Add beef stock and boil another 3 minutes.
3. Finally, add the cream and reduce the heat to medium. Heat through, but don't allow the peppercorn sauce to boil. Once the sauce is at your desired thickness, test for seasoning. Add salt if necessary, then serve with your favourite steak.
When do you add the peppercorns to the sauce? If I follow your instructions I'll have a brandy cream sauce and some crushed peppercorns in my mortar
After the Brandy just before the beef stock so the flavor infuses, Green peppercorns can be quite punchy so be careful and taste as you go
My pepper sauce is made in pretty much the same way but I add a teaspoon of Dijon mustard just after the brandy, it just sharpens the flavour up a little bit.

Melman Giraffe

6,794 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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TeeRev said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Weirdhead said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Here is a simple peppercorn sauce for Steak

Ingredients

2 to 3 tablespoons peppercorns
60g butter
1 shallot, minced
100ml brandy
100ml beef stock
60ml double cream
Method

1. Crush the peppercorns slightly, either using a mortar and pestle or a rolling pin.
2. Melt the butter in a saucepan over medium high heat. Add the shallots and saute until soft, about 3 minutes. Add the brandy and boil for another 3 minutes. Add beef stock and boil another 3 minutes.
3. Finally, add the cream and reduce the heat to medium. Heat through, but don't allow the peppercorn sauce to boil. Once the sauce is at your desired thickness, test for seasoning. Add salt if necessary, then serve with your favourite steak.
When do you add the peppercorns to the sauce? If I follow your instructions I'll have a brandy cream sauce and some crushed peppercorns in my mortar
After the Brandy just before the beef stock so the flavor infuses, Green peppercorns can be quite punchy so be careful and taste as you go
My pepper sauce is made in pretty much the same way but I add a teaspoon of Dijon mustard just after the brandy, it just sharpens the flavour up a little bit.
Nice touch will give that a go